[Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?

[Jay Weigel]

It wasn't over my head. It was actually straight on for me. The kitchen had
been done by the previous owner, built to the specs of his wife who was
about my size. It has now been gutted and rebuilt by my daughter and
son-in-law, who have installed a regular stove. She wanted to keep a wall
oven but they rearranged the whole thing and it wasn't practical.

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I haven't had a wall oven since 1962 in our new-build.  Who wants to lift
> a 20 lb turkey over their head to put it in the oven?  Not me, thank you
> very much.  I'm with the idiots.  Reminds me of the Flanders & Swan song
> with the eye-level grill so the hot fat can go straight into your eye.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim
>
>
> On 8/1/2015 5:15 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
>
>> I was terribly spoiled by having a wall oven for many years. Now I'm back
>> to a regular stove with a front opening oven and I wonder what idiot
>> thought those were a good idea.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Charles Wohlers <
>> charles.wohlers at verizon.net
>>
>>> wrote:
>>> No natural gas anywhere in Vermont other than the Burlington area. *Lots*
>>> of people use propane.
>>>
>>> Chad Wohlers
>>> East Bridgewater, MA USA
>>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weigel
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 4:55 PM
>>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>
>>> I *hate* my glass cooktop stove and would cheerfully go back to the other
>>> kind of electric, or to gas. However, the stove came with the house (and
>>> with S/O) so I deal with it and try not to curse it too loudly. There
>>> isn't
>>> a prayer of getting a natural gas pipeline up here and S/O does not want
>>> to
>>> deal with propane, so there we are.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lynn, is your propane tank inside or outside? If it's outside, there
>>>
>>>> shouldn't be a problem; if it's inside, check with the propane company
>>>> to
>>>> see if you can hook a stove up to it. The stove needs some kind of
>>>> modification to use propane rather than natural gas, but it's easy to
>>>> have
>>>> that done before it's delivered.
>>>>
>>>> On August 1, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gas is my favorite..... can't  have it where I live as there are no gas
>>>> lines running into condo community AND using propane from my 'storage
>>>> area'
>>>> located exactly next to the back side of the kitchen is most probably a
>>>> no-no.
>>>> L
>>>>
>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>
>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>>> not
>>>> a
>>>> single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
>>>> me."
>>>> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>>   "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a
>>>> talk
>>>> by Richard Rohr
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Charles Wohlers" <charles.wohlers at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:46 PM
>>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>>
>>>> Our house in Vermont came with the kind of stove that Lynn describes I
>>>>> completely agree with what she says. It probably looked really nice
>>>>> when
>>>>> new, but, it's impossible to clean thoroughly, takes a long time to
>>>>> heat
>>>>> up (& cool down), and non-flat pots don't work so well. Oh, yes, the
>>>>> big
>>>>> pot one uses for canning jam takes f-o-e-v-e-r to heat up to boiling.
>>>>>
>>>> Down
>>>>
>>>>> here in Mass. we have an old gas stove, and it's infinitely superior,
>>>>>
>>>> even
>>>>
>>>>> tho it doesn't look quite so nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> We once visited Judith Jones, Julia Child's editor and a big cook in
>>>>> her
>>>>> own right, who has a summer place near us in VT. She has an old gas >
>>>>>
>>>> stove
>>>>
>>>>> running off a big propane tank buried in the ground outside. She knows
>>>>> what she's doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chad Wohlers
>>>>> East Bridgewater, MA USA
>>>>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Lynn Ronkainen
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:29 PM
>>>>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look carefully Susan - most all of the electric stoves today have the
>>>>> smooth
>>>>> glass top. I am an avid cook and I do not like mine (it was brand new
>>>>>
>>>> when
>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> moved into my condo)... slow to heat up, easily stained by high sugar
>>>>> or
>>>>> high acid (think spag sauce) items that could never be removed with the
>>>>> 'polish' that you have to buy to clean it. This happened to me 6 months
>>>>> into
>>>>> using it - finally had to resort to 'not recommended' ways of removing
>>>>> damage, which made it more susceptible to continued damage. Also not
>>>>> supposed to use cast iron on it, AND if your pots are not totally
>>>>> smooth
>>>>> on
>>>>> the bottom, the lack of complete 'contact' with the heated surface may
>>>>> cause
>>>>> the heat to go on and off....the only thing I like about the stove is >
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> 'theoretically' easy to clean surface, but mine, after 8 years looks >
>>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>
>>>>> it's been through the wars...
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are a baker/oven user more than a stove top user, or have no
>>>>> unusual
>>>>> needs for stove top (jam making, cast iron searing, large pots cooking
>>>>> large
>>>>> batches of tomato sauce...) the smooth glass top might suit your needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have failed to find a high quality electric stove with the coil >
>>>>>
>>>> burners
>>>>
>>>>> at
>>>>> any of the 'big box' stores like Best Buy, my usual go-to place for
>>>>> appliances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>>
>>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>>>>
>>>> not
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave >
>>>>>
>>>> me."
>>>>
>>>>> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a >
>>>>>
>>>> talk
>>>>
>>>>> by Richard Rohr
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:59 AM
>>>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>>>
>>>>> You look at the ratings online first, and check the various forums.
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> what we did when buying our dishwasher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My electric oven quit on me the night before I left on vacation.  It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> was
>>>>
>>>>> old when I moved in this house 15 years ago, I've replaced stove top
>>>>>>> elements several times and I don't want to spend any more money on
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> headed out to look at what's on the market.  I don't even know what
>>>>>>> questions to ask.  How do you buy a stovetop/oven combo these days?
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> try Best Buy and Lowes I guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Before enlightenment pay bills, do laundry.  After enlightenment pay
>>>>>>> bills,
>>>>>>> do laundry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
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