[Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Jay >His parents' house actually
> had a "summer kitchen" which was on a screened-in porch type room. I could
> see that it would be much cooler for canning etc.

When I moved to Syracuse in '74, I discovered that many people had 'summer 
kitchens' in their basements - and that was in the hey-day of basement 
'family rooms'.... most of these kitchens were not in 'remodeled' basements, 
but were there for the same reason - canning and regular summer oven cooking 
too.... not too much central AC in those days  up north.
Lynn

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From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:34 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?

> My parents were raised in Missouri, my dad as a city kid and my mom as a
> small town girl. I had little experience with farm kitchens until I was in
> college and dated a local farm boy for awhile. His parents' house actually
> had a "summer kitchen" which was on a screened-in porch type room. I could
> see that it would be much cooler for canning etc. I have since seen how
> local Amish and Mennonite women actually move wood stoves outdoors for
> canning in hot weather. Seems very reasonable to me if one is going to be
> canning vast amounts in miserably warm weather!
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:16 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Kitchens in even typical merchants' houses were very frequently in a
>> separate building out of concern for the risk of fire.
>>
>> Just visited a Palatine home of old Rhinebeck from the 1700s. The 
>> original
>> room was made into the kitchen for a later building which is to one side.
>> Eventually the two were joined together and after wards more rooms added,
>> later ca. 1830.  It was a merchant's house in the middle of Rhinebeck, 
>> but
>> now it's isolated. Rhinebeck has moved down the road a couple miles.  A
>> church just south of the home has vanished, leaving its tiny graveyard
>> behind. The parish moved up the road and a much newer building stands 
>> just
>> west of Rt. 9 (the Albany Post Road).  It's kind of fascinating to ride
>> along a road such as Rt. 9 or Rt. 22, and see a road branch off at a 
>> narrow
>> angle, almost unfailingly sporting the sign "Old Rt. 9," or "Old Rt. 22".
>> Within a few miles, another road comes in from that side, being the other
>> end of the original road.
>>
>> Go along these old country roads and if you watch closely, all of a 
>> sudden
>> you will spot a place with lilacs. It may be a small line, or it may be
>> literally two bushes, one for each side of the doorway. Look very closely
>> and you may still make out the outline of the old farmhouse that once 
>> stood
>> there with lilacs at the front door. Going over the hill toward 
>> Connecticut
>> on my way to work at the old Psych Center, I learned to spot several of
>> these. I could go there today and pick them out. The ground is so rocky 
>> and
>> hilly that they will not be developed any time soon.
>>
>> Looking at the topography, it somewhat horrifies me that people once 
>> tried
>> to eke a living out of this land.  One can say the same about the land in
>> Western PA where I grew up. The land has not a single scrap of original
>> forest. It all was cut, back in the day. All that huge, rich forest of
>> Pennsylvania, save a couple square miles, is second growth from the first
>> cutting back. Much was cut for farmland; the rest was clear-cut by timber
>> barons.
>>
>> Now reclaimed, we have vast tracts of forest...
>>
>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Roger Stokes <
>> roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 03/08/2015 16:28, ME Michaud wrote:
>> >
>> >> A friend visited Mount Vernon and noticed the kitchen was in a 
>> >> separate
>> >> building. Did the residents find the aromas of cooking so unpleasant
>> they
>> >> had to take the kitchen out of the house? he wondered. More likely 
>> >> that
>> >> kitchens were hot and dangerous places that caught fire more than once
>> in
>> >> each person's lifetime.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I was used to that sirt of arrangement in historic houses in England so
>> > wasn't surprised to see it in Mount Vernon when I visited.  They were
>> > separate because of the risk of fire as well as the fact that they
>> needed a
>> > high ceiling so the cooks weren't working in a cloud of smoke.  Of 
>> > course
>> > one downside was that you needed fast footmen to ferry the food to the
>> > dining hall before it got cold.
>> >
>> > Roger
>> >
>>