[Magdalen] What We Believe - St. Paul's Bellingham

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Sounds just like Barth.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:

> I always liked two things the late Verna Dozier said about the Scriptures.
> She said the Bible is not the Word of God--Jesus is--and that the word of
> God is what happens in the space between us and the words on the page. She
> also pointed out that, while we say that Scripture contains everything
> necessary for salvation, that doesn't mean that everything IN  Scripture is
> necessary for salvation. Dashing the children's heads against the rocks,
> for example...
>
> > On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Jim, why does it have to be either entirely human made or magically God
> > given? Scripture surely is both God given AND man (or maybe in some cases
> > woman) made.
> >
> > Magic has nothing to do with either part of the never ending negotiation
> of
> > meaning, myth and power that is the Bible. It is flawed, it is horrible,
> it
> > is beautiful and wise beyond all telling, it is food and drink, vinegar
> and
> > honey.  It is the only book I know that reads me right back when I read
> > it...
> >
> > The love and passion for it held by God's people down the centuries
> drifts
> > like incense from the pages. And the shed blood of innocents in every age
> > drips from it also. It reflects ourselves as we truly are, behind the
> > veneer of civilisation and the self satisfactions of our present era,  it
> > holds up a mirror to the heart and cuts sinew from bone.
> >
> > I dont want a narrative of God's redemptive love written by one person,
> > through the lens of one historical era. Its fine with me to have a jumble
> > of times, places, and understandings and to wrestle with that even if I
> > walk away limping - as most of us have.
> >
> > I too hate some of it, and other parts could not live without. I hate the
> > way it is used and abused, and I would not call it THE Word of God, only
> > Jesus gets that title.
> >
> > But set it aside? No way. I have no right to do that and call myself an
> > Anglican of a child of Abraham.
> >
> > Sally D
> >
> > On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd offer the whole hoax about the Davidic covenant as one great
> example.
> >>
> >> However, it's kind of pointless if people insist on the view that
> >> scripture, entirely human-made, is somehow magically God-given.
> >>
> >> God might have inspired some of it, but certainly not all of it.  Where
> to
> >> draw the line? Why, that's why The Lord of Hosts gave you and me the
> >> ability to reason.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> >> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> preserved,
> >> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> >> magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 8/5/2015 3:29:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com <javascript:;> writes:
> >>>
> >>> Some  scripture is terrible and needs to be
> >>> set  aside.>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You have an ally in Martin Luther who is famously (or infamously)
> >>> quoted with calling "James an epistle of straw".
> >>>
> >>> He later made an attempt to retract that statement.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David Strang.
> >>
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