[Magdalen] What We Believe - St. Paul's Bellingham

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

I meant that in a good way.


James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:44 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds just like Barth.
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> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I always liked two things the late Verna Dozier said about the
>> Scriptures. She said the Bible is not the Word of God--Jesus is--and that
>> the word of God is what happens in the space between us and the words on
>> the page. She also pointed out that, while we say that Scripture contains
>> everything necessary for salvation, that doesn't mean that everything IN
>> Scripture is necessary for salvation. Dashing the children's heads against
>> the rocks, for example...
>>
>> > On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jim, why does it have to be either entirely human made or magically God
>> > given? Scripture surely is both God given AND man (or maybe in some
>> cases
>> > woman) made.
>> >
>> > Magic has nothing to do with either part of the never ending
>> negotiation of
>> > meaning, myth and power that is the Bible. It is flawed, it is
>> horrible, it
>> > is beautiful and wise beyond all telling, it is food and drink, vinegar
>> and
>> > honey.  It is the only book I know that reads me right back when I read
>> > it...
>> >
>> > The love and passion for it held by God's people down the centuries
>> drifts
>> > like incense from the pages. And the shed blood of innocents in every
>> age
>> > drips from it also. It reflects ourselves as we truly are, behind the
>> > veneer of civilisation and the self satisfactions of our present era,
>> it
>> > holds up a mirror to the heart and cuts sinew from bone.
>> >
>> > I dont want a narrative of God's redemptive love written by one person,
>> > through the lens of one historical era. Its fine with me to have a
>> jumble
>> > of times, places, and understandings and to wrestle with that even if I
>> > walk away limping - as most of us have.
>> >
>> > I too hate some of it, and other parts could not live without. I hate
>> the
>> > way it is used and abused, and I would not call it THE Word of God, only
>> > Jesus gets that title.
>> >
>> > But set it aside? No way. I have no right to do that and call myself an
>> > Anglican of a child of Abraham.
>> >
>> > Sally D
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
>> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'd offer the whole hoax about the Davidic covenant as one great
>> example.
>> >>
>> >> However, it's kind of pointless if people insist on the view that
>> >> scripture, entirely human-made, is somehow magically God-given.
>> >>
>> >> God might have inspired some of it, but certainly not all of it.
>> Where to
>> >> draw the line? Why, that's why The Lord of Hosts gave you and me the
>> >> ability to reason.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> >> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
>> preserved,
>> >> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>> >> magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 8/5/2015 3:29:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com <javascript:;> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> Some  scripture is terrible and needs to be
>> >>> set  aside.>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You have an ally in Martin Luther who is famously (or infamously)
>> >>> quoted with calling "James an epistle of straw".
>> >>>
>> >>> He later made an attempt to retract that statement.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> David Strang.
>> >>
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