[Magdalen] Bishop Cook: Another unfortunate piece of the story

[Lynn Ronkainen]

in my understanding a search committee does the 'work' and the vestry 
calls...

but then, that's part of what TEC is like with each diocese and diocesan 
often interpreting for themselves aspects of worship, seminary discernment, 
calling a new rector, and obviously standing committee parameters....
L

My email has changed to: houstonKLR at gmail.com

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Robison" <friarjohn00 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:42 PM
To: "magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Bishop Cook: Another unfortunate piece of the story

> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:10 PM, John Robison <friarjohn00 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Bullying, often couched in the form of "truth telling" is fairly 
>> > common.
>> > There is a strongly entrenched group of people (clergy and laity) who
>> have
>> > helped develope the processes of the diocese, and want it keep it as it
>> is.
>>
>> Perhaps not directly related, but tangentially, is the manipulation of
>> parish search processes by a diocese. We experienced some of this, and
>> it was pathetic. The first attempt was a blatant lie to our search
>> committee, done badly and quickly seen through. But removing our
>> diocesan liaison and replacing her with her boss wasn't the end of it.
>>
>
> Well, there is that. A parish I belonged to in Dio MD was repeatedly
> misslead (one must NEVER say lied to), and the confusion ended up being 
> the
> search committee's "fault."
> To be a bit more blunt: The Committee was sent to fresh from Seminary
> candidates to interview. The Candidates were told that these were
> "practice" interviews. That information was not given to the 
> Committee.When
> they decided to extend a call to one of the two, the candidate was quite
> suprised, and told the committee what she had been told. The Senior 
> Warden,
> a big wig at a Federal agency, called the search officer to complain, he
> was told that they should have realized that they were a "practice" for 
> the
> candidates, since the parish was obviously not suited for such future 
> "high
> fliers."
>
> Like I said, deep disfunction.
>
>
>>
>> But of course even in a by-the-book search process, the "book" is from
>> the diocese anyway, and applications are routed to us through the
>> diocese, so there's built-in manipulation; perhaps some of that is as
>> it should be or at least to be expected in a hierarchical church.
>>
>> --
>> Scott R. Knitter
>> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> John Robison Asc. Episcopal Carmel St Teresa
>
> Check out my online Book Shop:  http://astore.amazon.com/friarsrumi-20
>
> "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic
> uninterestingness as an intellectual position." - John Updike
>
> "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life:
> The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that
> often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading
> to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal 
> with
> the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."  ~John Rogers
>