[Magdalen] Please pray for Ascension, Chicago

[Christopher Hart]

I believe that Fr. Cobb has been at Ascension for at least the better part
of a year, so while he is still relatively new this is not the action of
someone who just arrived on the scene. Scott could tell us more precisely.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> I missed that this is about a rector who has just been hired.
>
> I have been at one parish since about 1975. In that time we have had a
> number of rectors, and not one of them ever dismissed anyone when they
> arrived.
> The only time a musician left was when the musician needed to move on for
> some reason.
> We have had a few parish administrators, and some have been really good and
> some not so. We have always been happy to get someone to agree to work for
> us.
>
> So the concept of some twit arriving and firing, effective immediately, his
> parish administrator just struck me as the height of incredible stupidity.
> If we all worked according to what someone describes as SOP, it would not
> be long before we would not be able to get anyone to work for us at all,
> and rightly so.  Only a fool would take a job, knowing that it could end
> instantly based on some nimrod's whim.
>
> If this was the only pattern someone observed, there would be nothing to
> prevent them concluding that church is toxic.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
> for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
> on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I understand your point more than I did at first David. Were this a
> > cathedral there might be more chance of retaining status quo in some
> areas.
> > It is always possible that there are other details in the mix unknown by
> > many. Change IS hard. Being able to see the vision of someone new is
> often
> > difficult especially when it seems incongruent.
> > Lynn
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2015, at 12:21 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/16/2015 9:21:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > jguthrie at pipeline.com writes:
> >
> >
> > One  would pray for the success of the new direction for the parish,
> while
> > wishing Godspeed to those not part of the new  regime.>>>>
> >
> > Not at the cost of diminishing what is probably the top Anglocatholic
> > liturgy and music in the Midwest.  A specialty parish like  Ascension
> > is never going to be the cup of tea for every one in the  neighborhood.
> >
> > Yes, of course there should be outreach, but there is Evangelical
> > outreach in the high drama of the Liturgy and the unexcelled quality
> > of the music, too.  I don't see how any Episcopalian would fail  to
> > appreciate this aspect of appeal!
> >
> > Ascension has always been my idea of ideal worship in the highest
> > Western Tradition, and I've worshipped there on occasion since
> > I was a youngster.  That's through the regime of several  rectors.
> > The idea that someone would come in and screw around with a
> > legendary worship tradition is very upsetting to me.
> >
> >
> > David Strang.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



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