[Magdalen] Please pray for Ascension, Chicago

[Scott Knitter]

He waited about a year before doing this. I've sort of adjusted to the idea
that it's happening and that I don't know all the background. Church
tomorrow will be weird.
On Jan 17, 2015 3:40 PM, "Christopher Hart" <cervus51 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe that Fr. Cobb has been at Ascension for at least the better part
> of a year, so while he is still relatively new this is not the action of
> someone who just arrived on the scene. Scott could tell us more precisely.
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I missed that this is about a rector who has just been hired.
> >
> > I have been at one parish since about 1975. In that time we have had a
> > number of rectors, and not one of them ever dismissed anyone when they
> > arrived.
> > The only time a musician left was when the musician needed to move on for
> > some reason.
> > We have had a few parish administrators, and some have been really good
> and
> > some not so. We have always been happy to get someone to agree to work
> for
> > us.
> >
> > So the concept of some twit arriving and firing, effective immediately,
> his
> > parish administrator just struck me as the height of incredible
> stupidity.
> > If we all worked according to what someone describes as SOP, it would not
> > be long before we would not be able to get anyone to work for us at all,
> > and rightly so.  Only a fool would take a job, knowing that it could end
> > instantly based on some nimrod's whim.
> >
> > If this was the only pattern someone observed, there would be nothing to
> > prevent them concluding that church is toxic.
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things
> better
> > for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your
> time
> > on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I understand your point more than I did at first David. Were this a
> > > cathedral there might be more chance of retaining status quo in some
> > areas.
> > > It is always possible that there are other details in the mix unknown
> by
> > > many. Change IS hard. Being able to see the vision of someone new is
> > often
> > > difficult especially when it seems incongruent.
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Jan 17, 2015, at 12:21 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> > > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/16/2015 9:21:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > jguthrie at pipeline.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > One  would pray for the success of the new direction for the parish,
> > while
> > > wishing Godspeed to those not part of the new  regime.>>>>
> > >
> > > Not at the cost of diminishing what is probably the top Anglocatholic
> > > liturgy and music in the Midwest.  A specialty parish like  Ascension
> > > is never going to be the cup of tea for every one in the  neighborhood.
> > >
> > > Yes, of course there should be outreach, but there is Evangelical
> > > outreach in the high drama of the Liturgy and the unexcelled quality
> > > of the music, too.  I don't see how any Episcopalian would fail  to
> > > appreciate this aspect of appeal!
> > >
> > > Ascension has always been my idea of ideal worship in the highest
> > > Western Tradition, and I've worshipped there on occasion since
> > > I was a youngster.  That's through the regime of several  rectors.
> > > The idea that someone would come in and screw around with a
> > > legendary worship tradition is very upsetting to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > David Strang.
> > >
> > >
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> --
>
> Christopher Hart
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