[Magdalen] Here We Go Again.

James Oppenheimer-Crawford oppenheimerjw at gmail.com
Sun Jul 5 04:17:10 UTC 2015


If it has everything that could ever possibly be utilized, including all
those esoteric things nobody but two or three hermits in Alberta every use,
then that's what I'm talking about.

I do not see any reason it should cost anything.  You drop the whole
shebang on a CD and there ya go.  I have put together several services from
online stuff of a much more modest nature, and it cost nothing, so it is
not that big a deal.
Or does this software have some kind of failsafe to stop you from putting
stuff in the wrong place or what, to justify the huge price tag?

<ERROR -- Gospel lesson not appropriate here!>

<ERROR -- number missing from hymn selection!>



We need not have a book anymore, except insofar as some parish decides they
want to have one. And if they do, they may want to have one to their own
design. This has made the BCP huge and unwieldy as an actual book, even
though we omit tons of stuff from it which are part of the actual potential
worship service.

I think it's time we dropped the other shoe and stopped entirely even
trying to publish a useful BCP. Anything we put out is going to be huge and
pointless, for most people, and still will be inadequate at least some of
the time.  And having it on a disk just makes all that bulkiness go away,
and yet we can go into as much esoteric detail as we feel might be needed.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:

> Uh, "The Rite Stuff," put out by Church Publishing, already allows this.
> Most places use it to print leaflets each week; but it could be used to
> print seasonal booklets that could be assembled, stapled, and used for
> several years.  Yes, it's $600 (for the first copy -- if you have older
> editions, it's much cheaper); but a church could spend the $600, and never
> have to buy books or hymnals again.  And people love the booklets printed
> out, rather than having to leaf back and forth through the BCP.
>
> Ann
>
> The Rev. Ann Markle
> Buffalo, NY
> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 12:37 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The elves putting the thing together should include a proposed date of
> > revision as a matter of course.  Ten years seems reasonable, don't you
> > think?
> >
> > Also, let's put together one book in which are all the possible services,
> > no exceptions at all whatsoever. The "Exhaustive Book of Common Prayer"
> > [EBCP]
> >
> > Then people wanting copies specify what they want and it gets published
> for
> > them that way.  No, there will never again be any need for any extra
> > volumes, but also no need for wasted paper.  You get the text you want,
> but
> > no more than you want.
> >
> > Publish it in disposable paper not designed to last.  I'd go with a
> booklet
> > with the rite 2 and psalter.
> >
> > You can go online and crank out a PDF of whatever your little (blessed
> be)
> > heart desires. And self-publish it.  That would make a great platform
> for a
> > DIY format for a special service, where you want certain things.
> >
> > Those who wish to add stuff not in the appointed EBCP (Exhaustive Book
> > etc.) could cut and paste their special text into supplied windows
> ("paste
> > your heretical text here")
> >
> >
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I do think that the format and expense involved with new publications
> > will
> > > also be a huge part of any revision conversation.
> > >
> > > Regarding front cover info I would fervently hope some kind of USA
> > > identifier would be present next time as the "title" The Book of Common
> > > Prayer was never the U.S. Church's title to begin with.
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Jul 4, 2015, at 8:32 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One of our Canons suggested (circa 1983) that we start
> > > a group to preserve the 1979 prayer book.
> > >
> > > He was joking, of course.
> > >
> > > A friend whose eyesight isn't what it was uses the BCP and
> > > Hymnal on his iPad. He finds the backlighting helpful in his
> > > (romantically-lit) dim church building.
> > > -M
> > >
> >
>


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