[Magdalen] Conscience's clause

[Charles Wohlers]

I don't know for a fact, but I would very much doubt if that's true. I do 
know it's not true in the Dioceses of Massachusetts and Vermont - both of 
which are quite liberal and both of which states have had gay marriage for a 
while now. Clergy in the Episcopal church are free to refuse marriage to 
anyone for any reason. I believe such is not the case in the C of E.

Chad Wohlers
Woodbury, VT USA
chadwohl at satucket.com



-----Original Message----- 
From: Zephonites--- via Magdalen
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Conscience's clause

Michael

I heard when I was in Long Island that the Bishop there now requires his
clergy to perform gay marriages

Does that mean you don't have a conscience clause then in the USA

Blessings
Martin


In a message dated 29/06/2015 15:32:27 GMT Summer Time,
jguthrie at pipeline.com writes:

From: ME  Michaud

>My understanding is that when clergy marry a couple they  are
>doing so with a license from the State. That is, all marriages  are
>civil marriages (though some are blessed by the clergy).

And  as long as that is the case, no one can serious make the case that
there's
real separation of church and state in the U.S. (especially true of right
wingers who claim that government is hostile to religion --put them in the
nincompoop department).

Cheers,
Jim  Guthrie