[Magdalen] Conscience's clause

[Mac McLeod]

Canon 18: Of the Solemnization of Holy Matrimony

 Sec. 4. It shall be within the discretion of any Member of the Clergy of
this Church to decline to solemnize any marriage.

 http://www.episcopalarchives.org/CandC_2009.pdf

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Charles Wohlers <
charles.wohlers at verizon.net> wrote:

> I don't know for a fact, but I would very much doubt if that's true. I do
> know it's not true in the Dioceses of Massachusetts and Vermont - both of
> which are quite liberal and both of which states have had gay marriage for
> a while now. Clergy in the Episcopal church are free to refuse marriage to
> anyone for any reason. I believe such is not the case in the C of E.
>
> Chad Wohlers
> Woodbury, VT USA
> chadwohl at satucket.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Zephonites--- via Magdalen
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:51 PM
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Cc: Zephonites at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Conscience's clause
>
>
> Michael
>
> I heard when I was in Long Island that the Bishop there now requires his
> clergy to perform gay marriages
>
> Does that mean you don't have a conscience clause then in the USA
>
> Blessings
> Martin
>
>
> In a message dated 29/06/2015 15:32:27 GMT Summer Time,
> jguthrie at pipeline.com writes:
>
> From: ME  Michaud
>
>  My understanding is that when clergy marry a couple they  are
>> doing so with a license from the State. That is, all marriages  are
>> civil marriages (though some are blessed by the clergy).
>>
>
> And  as long as that is the case, no one can serious make the case that
> there's
> real separation of church and state in the U.S. (especially true of right
> wingers who claim that government is hostile to religion --put them in the
> nincompoop department).
>
> Cheers,
> Jim  Guthrie
>
>