[Magdalen] prayers for my former parish

[Grace Cangialosi]

Jay, I agree with Marion and think you need to let the principals work it out.
Are you still a member there with voting privileges? In that case, you have the same right to speak up as anyone else in the parish

> On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Some of the people who want the former guy back are very powerful and LOUD
> and can be threatening to people who are quiet or shy. I spoke up on FB and
> said I didn't think it was appropriate to splatter the church's business
> there and that's probably why she messaged me. I'm not particularly
> intimidated by these people and never was. I also pointed out to her that
> she could e-mail the Bp. and nobody would know.
> 
>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I dunno.  Sounds like a lot of triangulation going on.  Former parish,
>> eh?  ... why would unknown people be urging *you* to call the bishop.  Why
>> don't they do it???
>> 
>> Marion, a pilgrim
>> 
>>> On 3/2/2015 9:19 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, so I had a chat with the senior warden of All Saints who is an old
>>> friend and here's what's happening. They *had* a PIC, appointed by the
>>> Bp.,
>>> and the vestry had voted to call him, with the Bp's permission. So last
>>> week he called the sr. warden and asked to speak to her privately and it
>>> turned out he was giving his two weeks' notice to accept an interimship at
>>> another parish. So they were back to square one. It was right after that
>>> that this other mess started. She suspects that although she had asked the
>>> vestry to keep the whole thing private, someone, and she is pretty sure
>>> she
>>> knows who, had leaked the info to someone who is very close to the former
>>> rector.  She is extremely upset with the person trumpeting it all over
>>> Facebook. So am I, and I would unfriend him except that I want to stay on
>>> top of what's happening. She did say that the Bp. is a man to be reckoned
>>> with. I also have received a message from someone I don't know encouraging
>>> me to contact the Bp. and let my feelings be known. I may have to do that
>>> after all.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jay.weigel at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, it's worse than I thought, apparently the guy leading the campaign
>>>> is back in town. :-(
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jay.weigel at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Since I'm not absolutely sure what's going on I don't want to stick my
>>>>> own oar in. I just really hope the bishop isn't a man easily swayed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gingawilder at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay,
>>>>>> The bishop needs to know your friends' reservations.  Also, I feel sure
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bishop would ask questions about this man's previous tenure in the
>>>>>> parish.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ginga
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jay.weigel at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have just learned via a Facebook post that a former rector of the
>>>>>> parish
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I belonged to in Tennessee for many years has offered to serve as
>>>>>> interim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> for a year. Now this may be seen by some as a gracious offer, but
>>>>>> IMNSHO it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> is extremely self-serving. The place is currently apparently in a huge
>>>>>> mess
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> both financially and spiritually following the departure of the
>>>>>> previous
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> rector, and AFAIK has a priest-in-charge appointed by the bishop
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> than an interim. (I'm not totally up on church politics, but this is
>>>>>> what I
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> gleaned on my last visit there on the occasion of my late ex's
>>>>>> memorial.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The PIC is a very nice guy. Also some of my old friends, who were
>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wounded by the previous rector now offering his services but soldiered
>>>>>>> faithfully on, are currently on the vestry.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't know what the protocol for such a thing is, but I think it is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Very Bad Idea. The guy IMNSHO has a serious Napoleon complex (yes, he
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> short little dude and he *really* likes to throw his weight around)
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> honestly believe he sees himself as riding in on a white horse to
>>>>>> "save"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the place. I know there is a certain faction within the parish that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> just LOVE to see him back (he left to become headmaster of an
>>>>>>> Episcopal
>>>>>>> school in NC) but I also know that there are others who might very
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> leave, and I strongly suspect that it would keep my daughter and her
>>>>>> family
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> from returning, or that they will be among those leaving. I am
>>>>>>> devoutly
>>>>>>> hoping that God, the bishop, and the vestry will say no. In any case,
>>>>>>> prayers are requested for All Saints,' Morristown, TN.
>>