[Magdalen] More Clergy DWI

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Just providing info from AA and my own opinion Jim... take it easy.

If something *works* for one person in 1,000, it is a success for that 1.

.02ingly
Lynn

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When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck

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From: "Jim Guthrie" <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:20 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] More Clergy DWI

> From: Lynn Ronkainen
>
>>"Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.
>
> The problem is that anecdotal information is not particularly trustworthy. 
> And the Anonymous part keeps it that way, because it bars any reasonable 
> study.
>
>>Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give 
>>themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are
>
> Again, anecdotal and thus open to question. It's something akin to blaming 
> a deceased person for being deceased because he "didn’t pray hard 
> enough" -- which is sometimes heard in some religious circles (though 
> never in TEC or Mainline church circles!).
>
> And, of course, some take the sentencing of DWI perps to 12-step programs. 
> It saves a huge amount on getting professional or psychiatric help, and we 
> see thousands of repeat DWI offenders who’ve been sentenced to AA and 
> return to the courts for DWI time and time again, with sentence to AA time 
> and time again as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie
>
>