[Magdalen] More Clergy DWI

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Psychological counseling, I have read from time to time, is similarly
unable to demonstrate efficacy.

I know it works because I've seen it, but my opinion is worthless because
it's anecdotal info.

Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be
counted counts.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Ronkainen
>
>  "Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.
>>
>
> The problem is that anecdotal information is not particularly trustworthy.
> And the Anonymous part keeps it that way, because it bars any reasonable
> study.
>
>  Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely
>> give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are
>>
>
> Again, anecdotal and thus open to question. It's something akin to blaming
> a deceased person for being deceased because he "didn’t pray hard enough"
> -- which is sometimes heard in some religious circles (though never in TEC
> or Mainline church circles!).
>
> And, of course, some take the sentencing of DWI perps to 12-step programs.
> It saves a huge amount on getting professional or psychiatric help, and we
> see thousands of repeat DWI offenders who’ve been sentenced to AA and
> return to the courts for DWI time and time again, with sentence to AA time
> and time again as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie
>
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