[Magdalen] Michigan & the UP....Re: Time is -- uh ....

Tue Nov 3 02:25:05 UTC 2015

The Soo Locks are the gateway to Lake Superior. Before 'the bridge' car 
ferries were used.
Lynn

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck
 "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
by Richard Rohr

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:12 PM
To: "magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Michigan & the UP....Re: Time is -- uh ....

> Very interesting, Lynn--thanks!  I've only been to the UP once, years ago
> when we went to North Dakota to visit my father's family.  I remember 
> going
> through the locks in Sault Ste. Marie--this was before the bridge--and a
> trip, I think, to an old iron mine. Is there a place called Iron
> Mountain? What I remember most is that after we got inside, the guide
> turned out the lights briefly so we could experience the total darkness.We
> did!
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Lynn, how did the UP end up as part of Michigan instead of Wisconsin?
>>> https://yoopersteez.com/post/why-the-upper-peninsula-is-not-part-of-wisconsin
>>>
>>
>> a quick look:
>> On June 15, 1836, President Andrew Jackson signed a bill that first
>> recognized Michigan as a state. However, Michigan would have to concede 
>> the
>> Toledo Strip to Ohio, but was given the western three quarters of the 
>> Upper
>> Peninsula in return (most of which borders Wisconsin along the Menominee
>> River).
>>
>> At first, Michigan rejected the offer partly out of pride and feeling 
>> that
>> the Upper Peninsula was a worthless region. As their financial crisis
>> lingered on they would have been left out of surplus government money if
>> they had remained a territory rather than a state. Michigan accepted the
>> terms in December in Ann Arbor.
>>
>> When the Toledo War ended it was considered that Ohio had "won". This
>> belief changed in the 1840s when it was discovered that the Upper 
>> Peninsula
>> was a vast region of resources including copper and iron ore. Considered 
>> to
>> have produced more mineral wealth than the California Gold Rush, the 
>> Upper
>> Peninsula supplied 90% of the United States copper supply by the 1860s 
>> and
>> was the largest supplier of iron ore by the 1890s.
>>
>> Had Michigan won the Toledo War they would have acquire the Toledo Strip,
>> meaning that the Upper Peninsula probably would have become a part of the
>> Wisconsin Territory and later a part of the State of Wisconsin.
>>
>> Michigan was finally admitted into the Union on January 26, 1837 as the
>> 26th state with the Upper Peninsula included.
>>
>> ..
>>
>> Quite frankly, I'm pretty stoked that Michigan has the 16,452 square mile
>> paradise of the Upper Peninsula rather than the 468 square mile region of
>> the Toledo Strip. Clearly I'm biased, but I think we clearly got the 
>> better
>> deal.
>>
>> All you history buffs out there let me know if there is more info I 
>> should
>> include.
>>
>>
>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>
>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
>> not
>> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave 
>> me."
>> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
>> by Richard Rohr
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Time is -- uh ....
>>
>> Lynn, how did the UP end up as part of Michigan instead of Wisconsin?
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:27 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The UP/upper peninsula is the 'other' part of Michigan that is located
>>>> between the Lakes Superior, Michigan and the top of Huron and between 
>>>> the
>>>> state of Wisconsin to the west and  Canada to the east.
>>>>
>>>> Isle Royal, almost to the Canadian Shore, in Lake Superior, is also 
>>>> part
>>>> of Michigan. It is reachable by plane, ferry and private boat and is a
>>>> State Park (famous for its study of wolves and moose). It is used for
>>>> camping and most people 'pack' in and hike various trails across or 
>>>> around
>>>> the island after they have been delivered by ferry or plane. There are 
>>>> a
>>>> few cabins 'for rent' at the main boat landing point which require
>>>> reservations which are sometimes doled out via a lottery system.
>>>>
>>>> Mackinac Island is also part of Michigan and located in the northern
>>>> part of Lake Huron. It has no cars (with the exception of an EMC -
>>>> emergency vehicle) and although open year round sees most of it's 
>>>> tourist
>>>> traffic in summer and fall. People ride bikes there, and there are 
>>>> horse
>>>> and buggy 'taxis'. There is a State Park there also in the footprint of 
>>>> a
>>>> Fort from the American Revolution and the French and Indian wars 
>>>> (IIRC).
>>>>
>>>> Most of the UP is on Central time, but the counties that are closest to
>>>> Wisconsin are not.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>
>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
>>>> gave
>>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a
>>>> talk by Richard Rohr
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Roger Stokes" <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 5:11 PM
>>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Time is -- uh ....
>>>>
>>>> On 02/11/2015 20:09, Cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
>>>>>> In a message dated 11/2/2015 2:21:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> houstonklr at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in  Michigan's UP dusk following sunset in the summer, on the 'west
>>>>>> coast'
>>>>>> can  still be pink-horizon at 10;30  pm!
>>>>>> Lynn>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Talk about strange hours for sunlight:  Only the four southwestern 
>>>>>> UP
>>>>>> counties are in the Central Zone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation please, UP?  Is that the bit of Michigan which is North of
>>>>> Wisconsin on the West side of Lake Michigan?
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
> -- 
> Grace Cangialosi
> Ruckersville, VA
>
> *We must cry out against injustice or by our silence consent to it.
> Dorothy Day* 