[Magdalen] Heather Cook

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Chad - I was referring mostly to churches where, shall we say there is/was 
'active' alcohol use - if  there came a time when changing policies or 
removing it came under discussion... those for removal or moderating were 
usually in the minority.

It is also my experience that when the focus is about an individual or group 
of individuals AT THAT CHURCH, or in a particular organization, for whom the 
movement to 'go dry' is advocated -  that IS a loosing battle.  Those who 
don't want to 'let go' see it as a personal situation instead of the larger 
issue that it actually is. IMO, it is only when/if the entire scope of the 
issue, beyond the church walls etc, such as the conversations now taking 
place in TEC, that real change can be envisioned, attempted and succeed.

L

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From: "Charles Wohlers" <charles.wohlers at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 12:12 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Heather Cook

>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Lynn Ronkainen
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:27 AM
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Heather Cook
>
> I have found that anyone saying 'no' to alcohol in church, unless it is 
> the
> priest, is in a minority.
>
>
>
> This has not been my experience at all. In the 30 years I spent in my 
> parish in Mass., there was never any alcohol at church events, and I don't 
> recall it ever being an issue. Same with other parishes I've belonged to 
> or had contact with. These are all in New England, so that may be the 
> difference. Lee confirms that in some places alcohol is common and a 
> problem, but in most church events we're familiar with (again, in New 
> England) there is little or no alcohol.
>
> Raffles, on the other hand ...
>
>
> Chad Wohlers
> Woodbury, VT USA
> chadwohl at satucket.com