[Magdalen] immigration / migrant situation --->Re: Professional panhandlers; was Loaned out.

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Other lands are having enormous problems with their immigrants, and no,
they do not have all that stuff in place. It has been in the papers fairly
recently. It will be intriguing to see how this latest tsunami of
immigrants to Europe turns out.  I predict it will result in an elevation
of terrorist actions.  Not that one need be from a destabilized country to
turn bad.  It's happening right her, and it's nothing new.

One nut case murdered a US president; a group of Russian kids from
privileged classes murdered the Tsar.

It seems to me that the only way we can eliminate terrorism is to find a
way for some kind of real economic stability and prosperity to come to the
thug-doms from which these folks come. Even all our one per cent don't have
the funds to make that happen, even if they wanted to, although if we
scrapped half of our tridents, along with all their various support
systems, we could hypothetically make a dent....

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> In thinking about the current world migrant situation, I am interestedly
> following how and why other countries have vastly different policies and
> approaches to this dilemma and where 'they're coming from'.  I also think
> that many of the European countries that are taking in the migrants either
> have jobs for them or have social services in place that will enable them
> to settle into their new society with enough support to go on to be
> productive.
>
> So many of the stories we hear in the US  about how balanced some of the W
> European and Scandinavian countries are with employment, social structure
> are wonderful, but they are also much smaller countries than the US with
> perhaps more government control of many aspects of society in regard to
> wager, medical costs, pensions, etc.
>
> Our immigration 'debate' covers so many facets that are often not even
> brought into the light of day. So, many people are unaware of the
> complexity.
>
> Legal immigrants
> work visa with intent to have legal status
> work or student visa holders who end up staying illegally
> victims of persecution etc in foreign countries
> victims of our own wars, or those emigrate as a reward for helping our
> government/military
> illegal immigrants
> minor children immigrants
> children born here to illegal immigrants or visiting foreigners
>
> The immigration complexity almost always dances with our social services
> funds which are under fire everywhere these days it seems.
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
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>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> by Richard Rohr
>
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> From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:07 AM
> To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Professional panhandlers; was Loaned out.
>
> I once heard an address where one of the points made was that the right
>> LOVES all that we do to help the poor and destitute on the street. After
>> all, if we do anything at all, it's that much less need, and they are just
>> fine with that. Let the liberals dig into their pockets, so we don't have
>> to.
>>
>> I remember when the bishop was visiting, he was chatting during dinner.
>> "You know, if it were not for what we and the RCC do, all of New York City
>> would just go down."
>>
>> Yep. All that is fine with the right. Just fine.
>>
>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:55 AM, M J [Mike] Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>>I look at it this way (the Jewish standpoint, or at least that's my
>>> understanding): charity is one's own responsibility. It begins in the
>>> heart, and if one gives with the proper intent, what the recipient does
>>> with the gift is not the giver's problem. The giver has done the good
>>> deed.<<<
>>>
>>> Since Jesus was a Jew, I think you're onto something there.  :-)=
>>>
>>> Intent is definitely part of the picture.  One particularly hot evening,
>>> I
>>> not only walked a fiver over to my friend at Nob Hill, I also handed him
>>> a
>>> freshly bought, and warm, Gatorade.  I said "It's not cold, but hey, it's
>>> gotta help!"  "God bless you, brother!"
>>>
>>>