[Magdalen] Hit and Run Devotion?

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

I cannot say for sure, but it seems to me, from what I recall, that
Greeley's studies were of lay members of the RCC, not specific groups.
Sociology identifies trends. It does not predict what Albert Russewitz is
going to do.

I also know people who used to be in the RCC.  I also know a married priest
from TEC who is now in the RCC, and that is about as atypical as can be,
but, sure, it happens.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jim O> Andrew  Greeley did studies showing that RCC members tend to remain
> RCC no
>
>> matter  what.  They may stop going to church altogether, but they do not
>> stop  being RCC. It's as if there's some kind of inoculation they get as a
>> kid  which makes it hard for them to "convert" to any other
>> denomination.>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
> Well, from the age of 6 when they started talking about sin (in my
> generation - educated in '50s-'60s) it was a sin to go into another church
> and we were told that NO MATTER WHAT we would always be Catholic (i.e.
> always subject to judgment and hell).
>
> I know many contemporaries of mine, some people I've known all my life and
> others who  I've just met, all of whom are not only 'lapsed' RCs but have
> never stepped foot in any church since leaving the church in their 20s.
> Others, like myself have found a spiritual home and do not look back.  I
> think the 'hard to convert' part is based on the inoculation of church
> teaching through the first 3/4 of the 20C.  Have also met a number of
> 'former' catholic monks and priests, some who married, some of whom became
> ordained in the Episcopal church. To a person, of those I've know in that
> persuasion, none of them consider themselves RC although all of them are
> members of a mainline denomination.
> Lynn
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> by Richard Rohr
>
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> From: "Cantor03--- via Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 8:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Hit and Run Devotion?
>
>
>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/13/2015 6:45:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Andrew  Greeley did studies showing that RCC members tend to remain RCC no
>> matter  what.  They may stop going to church altogether, but they do not
>> stop  being RCC. It's as if there's some kind of inoculation they get as a
>> kid  which makes it hard for them to "convert" to any other
>> denomination.>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>> There was a discussion on the now-defunct-and-sorely-missed DioBeth
>> List some years ago to this effect even though a number of diocesan
>> clergy,
>> including retired +Bethlehem (now deceased) Dyer were Roman  Catholics.
>> +Dyer was a Roman Catholic Benedictine monk and his wife had been
>> a Roman Catholic nun.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Strang.
>>
>>
>>
>>