[Magdalen] Grrr....

Sat Aug 13 19:58:19 UTC 2016

This says it all.

http://whyisupporthillary.com/why-meryl-streep-supports-hillary/

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jim, this puts very well what I've been thinking, and I read something
> along this line a couple of weeks ago. The writer also noted that Hillary's
> approval rating were high when she was a actually * in* a particular
> position, but then they went down when she was promoted or aspired to a
> higher position--U.S. Senator, for example.
> I wish I "liked" her better as a person, but I think that is irrelevant
> here. As for all of the "Crooked Hillary" smears and the constant
> accusations of lying, as you say, Jim, she hasn't been found guilty of any
> chargeable offense, and IIRC, she has admitted that her use of a private
> server was poor judgment, and she wouldn't do it again.  I've read several
> things pointing out that Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice had done the same
> thing, but that's never mentioned. Maybe because they belong to the right
> party.......?
> In any case Donald Trump would be such a danger to our country--and,
> indeed, to the world--that I would vote for anyone who had a chance of
> keeping him from being elected.
> Also, love her or hate her, Hillary is by far the most qualified person to
> be president, and that's what I want.
> That's it--my last political statement on the election.
> It was really nice having three days of silent retreat away from all
> this...
>
> > On Aug 13, 2016, at 2:44 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A lot of people have strong feelings about Hil, based on stuff they think
> > they know.
> >
> > I've mentioned that most of this boils down to the deep-structure bias
> that
> > she's a woman aspiring to the highest office in the land and that is a
> > mockery of all that is American. How dare she? And most folks who hold
> that
> > position will vehemently deny that this is where they come from. But look
> > at what they base their rage upon, and you generally have your answer.
> >
> > "She's a liar!" As are we all. As are we all.  The question should be on
> > what scale, and there, we also have an answer.
> >
> > The best minds in the nation have invested MILLIONS of dollars in a
> SERIES
> > of expeditions, inquiries, committees, etc., trying everything they can
> > think of to show her to be that BIG liar, and the facts are clear: THEY
> > FAILED.
> >
> > You just ignore that and keep on. The GOP might not have been able to
> catch
> > her out -- but **I** know the truth.   "The FBI cleared her? Well, see,
> > that just means the FBI was in on it anyway."
> >
> > For once in your dreary lives, listen to yourself.
> >
> > See your bias for what it is, embrace it, and move on. We need to elect
> the
> > best candidate. Nobody says we have to like them. Stop acting like this
> is
> > some prom queen election.
> >
> > I have no delusions about Hil.  She's a political animal. Would not be
> > where she is today if she wasn't. Political animals shape the truth.  FDR
> > did it. Lincoln did it. Eisenhower [fer cryin' out loud] did it.
> Washington
> > did it.  Just be cause she's a woman, oh dear, we can't have THAT.
> >
> > This has been stewing in my craw for some time, and I for one wish
> certain
> > folks who darn well ought to know better would grow the frick up. I love
> > you, you can be so obtuse.
> >
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Sibyl Smirl <polycarpa3 at ckt.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You know what, Molly?  I strongly dislike Hillary.  I have disliked her
> >> ever since I became aware of her existence, probably somewhere along in
> the
> >> eighties, more and more almost every time I hear of her.  I live about
> 40
> >> miles from the NW corner of Arkansas, so I do hear a lot of the Arkansas
> >> news, though much of it goes in one ear and out the other, leaving,
> >> sometimes, vague impressions.  As a result of this growing dislike, I
> don't
> >> think she's fit to be President of the US, and I tend to believe most of
> >> the stuff I hear told about her, even though I'm aware that there are a
> lot
> >> of plain lies about facts, as well as a lot of bias-flavored statements
> >> kicking around this election, especially on Facebook, from all sides.
> >>
> >> I won't be voting for her, not ever in my lifetime, until I'm part of
> the
> >> Graveyard Vote, and if somebody votes for her then in my name, I'll be
> >> certain to come back and haunt them if it's at all possible.
> >>
> >> I do feel rather similarly about Trump, probably even more so, but
> that's
> >> not relevant to this.  I'm crying for my country, for the likely
> prospects
> >> ahead.  This is not an election in which to vote for the lesser of two
> >> evils, when you consider that the evils are in such different directions
> >> and types that it's hard to judge which is lesser.
> >>
> >> At the present time, it's likely that I'll be voting for the
> Libertarian,
> >> Gary Johnson,  or maybe the American Solidarity Party, which Albion
> favors,
> >> whoever that is: I haven't checked up on him yet, and probably won't
> make a
> >> final decision until November.  But if I'm alive, I _will_ be voting.  I
> >> assume that couple from Ohio will be voting too.
> >>
> >> I gather you'll be voting for Hillary?  I probably wouldn't sell you a
> >> necklace of mine.  (There are a couple of things ironic or sarcastic or
> >> something about this last paragraph: I'm not certain what the term would
> >> be, but it's definitely negative).
> >>
> >> Actually, I love you, and a lot of my friends like that woman, but this
> >> post has been itching around under my skin ever since I first read it.
> I do
> >> guarantee you that many of the negative things about Hillary are _not_
> >> slander, they are perfectly true, because I observed them as they went
> by,
> >> for more than 25 years now, long before this endless campaign was
> dreamed
> >> of.  What bothers me about so many of her supporters is that they also
> know
> >> all this stuff, and they don't _care_!  "What difference does it make?"
> >>
> >> Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/2/16 9:19 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I need to whinge and fume.
> >>>
> >>> As many of you know, I make jewelry (hi Jay!).  Unlike Jay, my stuff is
> >>> strung beads.  I sell at a lovely shop in Alexandria Bay, NY, called
> Bay
> >>> House, an artisans'/artists' co-operative.  I work shifts there, like
> >>> most of the other members, and I was on duty this afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> Last week, I took in a set I was especially happy with: rhombus
> >>> (square-on-diagonal) cinnabar beads with Czech druk beads (glass) and
> >>> seed beads:  necklace and matching earrings and bracelet.  I don't have
> >>> a picture of it, more's the pity.  But it was a lovely little thing.  I
> >>> sold it this afternoon to a couple from Ohio.
> >>>
> >>> Normally, it's a joy to sell my stuff: partly to get it out of the shop
> >>> so I can make more, and partly because it's like giving a kitten to a
> >>> good home.  But while I was ringing up the sale, the buyers got into a
> >>> conversation with other customers, about the current U.S. political
> >>> scene, and it turned out they were ardent Hilary-slandering
> >>> liberal-media-bashing frothing Trumpites. (Although even so, she
> >>> expressed the wish that he'd shut his mouth. Dream on, lady.)
> >>>
> >>> I am a professional.  I did not snatch my lovely little cinnabar set
> >>> back from their undeserving hands and bellow "you can't have it!" I
> >>> completed the sale, took their money, and bade them goodbye pleasantly.
> >>> But I'm still fuming.
> >>>
> >>> I just bought a whole bunch of those cinnabar beads from Panda Hall and
> >>> I am going to recreate the set and sell it to someone who deserves it.
> >>> So there.
> >>>
> >>> Grrr.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sibyl Smirl
> >> I will take no bull from your house!  Psalms 50:9a
> >> mailto:polycarpa3 at ckt.net
> >>
>