[Magdalen] Drug research.

[Ann Markle]

Jim, I'm not sure what you mean by "sharpshooter."  Does this mean anyone
who dares disagree with you?  I realize you've worked in mental health.  I
also realize you cite one anecdotal incident, which doesn't mean Thorazine
for pregnancy was common medical practice.  We also don't know what other
kinds of symptoms this RN you knew was exhibiting, many of which might have
indicated prescription of an antipsychotic med.  Margaret, who has worked
in medicine/academia for her career, might have something informed to say
about the origins of Thorazine, as well.  My impression is that this was a
factual discussion, not "sharpshooting," whatever that is.  Sorry you
experienced it as some kind of assault, but just sayin', it didn't look
like that to a disinterested observer who likes you both a lot.

Ann

The Rev. Ann Markle
Buffalo, NY
ann.markle at aya.yale.edu

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 6:30 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> I saw that. It's aimed at the psychiatric angle, so it doesn't talk about
> the other stuff.
>
> The point was that many medicines started out in a very different category
> than that in which they became well known.
>
> I am really tired of sharpshooters. Not surprised, but tired.
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorpromazine
> >
> > In the section headed "History", it was developed as a better alternative
> > to a drug used to calm surgical patients. It was quickly tested in a
> mental
> > hospital, with a dramatic effect on a manic patient who was discharged in
> > three weeks.
> > It was marketed as Thorazine, replaced such treatments as shock therapy
> > and psychosurgery and quickly emptied mental hospitals of patients with
> all
> > sorts of psychoses.
> > It also led to the discovery of antidepressants.
> > If I recall correctly, there are 30,000 homeless living on the streets of
> > Los Angeles, many of them psychotic. I'm not sure if most of them reject
> > treatment with drugs like Thorazine.
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thorazine was the first anti-psychotic (early 1950s)
> > > but IIRC was developed with the hope that it would treat malaria.
> > >
> > > In its rudimentary clinical trials it was found to have other
> potentials.
> > > -M, who remembers patients with Tardive dyskinesia
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2016, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> No.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>