[Magdalen] Madeline Albright.

[Jay Weigel]

Lynn R published:

I think that Bernie and Hillary are both too old actually. I still hold out
hope that someone else may emerge and thrown the convention into chaos : )

Not gonna happen under the current system, and you know it. This is not
1870, or even 1960. Fuhgeddaboudit.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:

> way too much on my plate today work-wise and emotional-wise but can't keep
> my self from responding to this:
>
> Ann M >Hillary, on the other hand, is the total package.  Before she was
> Sec'y of
>
>> State, she had dedicated herself to domestic issues, particularly health
>> care and family issues.  Then she got the global creds she needs to be
>> President in this time and place.  I don't get the other stuff/complaints
>> about her.  Of course she tweaks her policy statements to have greater
>> appeal to the electorate -- all candidates do this.  The whole
>> "untrustworthy" thing with regard to Hillary is completely made up.  She
>> has been amazingly consistent and honest.
>>
>
>
> Hillary is a liar and has been tweaking the truth since Bill was in
> office. Hillary was a unique Secretary of State and had her own agenda of
> 'global women', which also well served the foundation founded by her
> husband and created her own groundwork with this cabinet position to
> feather her 2016 campaign nest. This is well documented.  Remember when she
> lied about landing in a foreign country under dangerous circumstances??  We
> have federal laws preventing American companies from paying 'bribes' to
> foreign countries as part of normal business - of course we get around that
> by hiring a third party (whole 'consultant firms' exist based on this
> premise). OTOH... *perhaps* foreign players don't realize that bribes, er,
> ah, speech dollars and/or charity donations are not supposed to come with
> any strings attached either. Right....
>
> Hillary gives speeches where one speech can rival the annual salary of the
> CEO of a mid sized company. Who can say anything worth that much?  It is my
> belief that 'speech honorarium' is the new phrase for bribe.  See who pays
> for the speeches, see how laws are made and bills passed.  Not to mention
> the roster of questionable international hoodlums who have donated millions
> to 'the charity'.  Use bad money to do good? Right...
>
> Why no one has equated the current personal email server situation with
> the disappearing/missing/wet box of important Whitewater papers that
> contained the probable 'missing info' is beyond me.
>
> Instant information seems to have become the latter day equivalent of
> 'newspeak' from the book "1984. We are so inundated with information of the
> instant that we fail to remember what has actually happened  in even the
> recent past...  . And... of course many other things pertaining to the
> world, and all political parties here in the US.  (another category -
> evangelical tea-party type Christians appear to  have no clue about the
> religious strife in Europe that led to the colonizing of the English
> Colonies).
>
> And the age issue? Hillary is currently 69, turning 70 in 2017. Regan was
> sworn in at age 69 and shortly thereafter turned 70.
>
> I think that Bernie and Hillary are both too old actually. I still hold
> out hope that someone else may emerge and thrown the convention into chaos
> : )
>
> L
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> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> by Richard Rohr
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ann Markle" <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 11:49 AM
> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Madeline Albright.
>
> I have to say that this thread wearies me.  Bernie could never be President
>> of the US.  His domestic policies/comments are good, solid, unoriginal
>> (Elizabeth Warren said them first and better).  He knows nothing on the
>> global policy front, and this is obvious -- and extremely crucial in this
>> election cycle.  He simply can't do it.  Plus, he's too old to count on
>> for
>> 8 years (as was Reagan, for those who are keeping track -- if
>> international
>> crises of the current magnitude had come along in Reagan's 2nd term, the
>> US
>> would have been sunk).
>>
>> Hillary, on the other hand, is the total package.  Before she was Sec'y of
>> State, she had dedicated herself to domestic issues, particularly health
>> care and family issues.  Then she got the global creds she needs to be
>> President in this time and place.  I don't get the other stuff/complaints
>> about her.  Of course she tweaks her policy statements to have greater
>> appeal to the electorate -- all candidates do this.  The whole
>> "untrustworthy" thing with regard to Hillary is completely made up.  She
>> has been amazingly consistent and honest.
>>
>> Bernie, God love him, has done his best to do this with regard to global
>> affairs, but his knowledge is painfully, obviously thin.  On a calmer
>> global stage, his domestic policy would dominate.  I get the energy among
>> younger people, but they just don't get the need for global experience
>> right now -- maybe in future elections, their agenda can and will
>> dominate.  But not this year -- please.
>>
>> As for the comments about Carly, the complaints about Trump apply to her.
>> Failed business people with no public service experience at all need not
>> apply.  The only one even vaguely qualified on the Republican front is
>> Kasich, and he doesn't seem to stand a chance.  The others are simply
>> crazy, and the larger electorate knows this.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>> Buffalo, NY
>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Lol...
>>> Bernie fan here too
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kate Conant <kate.conant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am for Bernie.  I never was for Hillary.  I guess several of us can
>>> enjoy
>>> our special place in hell.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> "What does the Lord require of you, but to do justice, love mercy, and
>>> walk
>>> humbly with your God?"
>>> Micah 6:8
>>>
>>>