[Magdalen] Private-ish repository for vestry documents?

[Jo Craddock]

Or those who haven't attended since the new rector arrived/asked for money/moved granny's lightbulb, etc. and want to find out just *who* suggested moving granny's lightbulb. <grin>

Peace,
Jo

> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> another thought in my response to Jo's thinking that having to drive during the week to read the minutes if reading them at church was the only option.... I would imagine that the only people to whom the minutes would be important are people who do attend church every Sunday. An option to 'view' the minutes while they are there on Sunday is entirely feasible too.
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> From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 12:08 PM
> To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Private-ish repository for vestry documents?
> 
>> Since every place has a different culture, some practices that seem
>> "obvious" to some are not acceptable to others. Some places enjoy
>> transparency while others do not. There is a price for every move toward
>> transparency, in that some discussion on matters of great sensitivity
>> simply will no longer happen at all. It may be deemed worth the price to
>> have transparency, but one should not be under the illusion that there is
>> no price; there are consequences for any action.
>> 
>> I personally favor transparency, but it is surprising how many others
>> fervently do not.  Most minutes are first approved by the body itself, so
>> that items can be corrected or entirely removed if desired.
>> 
>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Catharine Phillips <revcphillips at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am used to the monthly newsletter summing up what the vestry dealt with
>>> the previous month. Any parishioner is welcome to attend vestry meetings.
>>> In my experience, there are rare discussions done in those meetings that
>>> are closed.
>>> 
>>> My 2 cents.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:49 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
>>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > I think that is a great idea.  People would not be able to get into it
>>> > without permission, and it isn't readily visible to those who might > want
>>> to
>>> > look for it.  I'm a big believer in hiding by not being readily seen in
>>> the
>>> > first place. Sites that are there but restricted make challenges to
>>> > hackers, but if they don't realize something is there to begin with,
>>> there
>>> > is nothing for them to "go after."
>>> >
>>> > Of course, if you truly want security, put it on a thumb drive and have
>>> > copies. Periodically copy from the true master to the copies and put
>>> stuff
>>> > on the true master as needed. Just be sure you know where each copy is > at
>>> > all times.
>>> >
>>> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>>> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not > preserved,
>>> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Our gallery has an "internal communications" area on our Facebook > > page.
>>> > You
>>> > > have to be added to it by the page manager. It works really well.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Scott Knitter > > <scottknitter at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > One of our wardens and our clerk want me to create an online home > > > for
>>> > > > Vestry minutes and related documents. Their initial idea was for me
>>> to
>>> > > > create an unpublished page on our website, available only to those
>>> who
>>> > > > have the URL, and I'd make the URL hard to make up. That's sort of
>>> > > > private but of course might still be crawlable by search engines.
>>> > > > Turns out this isn't possible anyway, because unpublished pages on
>>> the
>>> > > > site can be seen only by the webmaster while logged in.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > We might pay extra for a private-access area on our site, but what
>>> are
>>> > > > some of the best alternatives for posting internal documents so
>>> > > > parishioners can see them but not the general public? We've
>>> > > > experimented with Dropbox, which is one option.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Scott R. Knitter
>>> > > > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *Catharine Phillips, MA, MDiv, CADC*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *All will be well.  Period.  (Thank you, Julian of Norwich)*
>>> 
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