[Magdalen] the day after....

Lynn Ronkainen houstonklr at gmail.com
Wed Nov 9 20:39:27 UTC 2016


...perhaps those of us (country-wide) who most regret the outcome are the 
very ones  best able to withstand this outcome through community, and the 
strengths and values we bring to our families, friends, community and 
state/nation. Our actions can be the the visible difference.

Lynn

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck
 "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
by Richard Rohr

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From: "Kristin Rollins" <kristin at verumsolum.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:23 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] the day after....

> Your son's thoughts feel so familiar, Ginga.
>
> I am probably helped by realizing a few days ago that the level of
> support Trump had meant that, whether we won or lost, half the country
> would feel hurt and left out of our political leadership in a way that
> seemed more pronounced than most elections.
>
> So I have been trying to figure out how to stand up for what is right &
> oppose what is wrong, without acting in ways that unnecessarily promote
> more division. In ways that respect the dignity of every human being,
> including those who disagree with me.
>
> I still have no idea HOW to find that path, and I expect that I will
> miss the mark more often than I hit it over the next four years, and
> that there are likely to be situations where there are no paths that
> avoid compromising one side or the other of that equation. But I worry
> about what happens if the depth of division we have seen over the last
> several years continues, almost as much as I worry about the future
> actions of a President Trump with a Republican-controlled Congress.
>
> Kristin
>
> --
> Kristin Rollins
> kristin at verumsolum.com
> Portsmouth, VA
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, at 02:58 PM, Ginga Wilder wrote:
>> Eleanor,
>> My youngest son Robert wrote this on FB this morning.  His
>> wonderful wife
>> Christina is Filipino:
>>
>> "It's not so much that I hate the idea of Trump being
>> president, I mourn
>> my
>> morals and values and beliefs that may be tossed aside and forgotten
>> about.
>> Trump supporters most likely feel the exact opposite about
>> their morals
>> and
>> values and beliefs, because their candidate won. But I worry about my
>> daughter, not only because she is female but also because she
>> is a young
>> human being. For the next four years of her life this disgustingly
>> womanizing man is going to be in charge of her country. I hurt
>> for those
>> in
>> the LGBTQ community like my sister, who is a lesbian and an episcopal
>> minister and married. Who knows what is going to happen to those
>> laws set
>> in place to protect homosexuals. I also fear for my non-white
>> friends and
>> loving wife who now have a president that had White supremacist
>> supporters
>> and he never seem to let that bother him. Even the KKK was
>> marching over
>> an
>> interstate within the last 20 hours in Mebane, NC celebrating
>> this win.
>> So,
>> I do welcome Trump as our president. I just won't compromise my
>> beliefs
>> and
>> morals and values."  Robert Wilder
>>
>>
>> Robert's mom,
>>
>> Ginga
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Eleanor Braun
>> <eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I think, or at least hope, you are right, Scott. I thought
>> > before last
>> > night that this election was the last gasp of the angry white men.
>> > We may
>> > see much damage in the next few years to immigrants, women, LGBT
>> > folks, the
>> > disabled, and more. Perhaps the only hope is that people will really
>> > become
>> > mobilized and learn they really to have to stand up and vote to keep
>> > bending the arc of the moral universe toward justice.
>> >
>> > Eleanor
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, November 9, 2016, Scott Knitter
>> > <scottknitter at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > A friend made me feel more hopeful by pointing out that the USA is
>> > > actually changing and that this election was a last gasp of the
>> > > Angry
>> > > White Men. The nation will keep changing. I've mainly bristled at
>> > > those posting that we need to come together now in unity (and
>> > > apparently align with the horrible values that won, because
>> > > somehow we
>> > > have no choice but to do so). Protest is part of democracy as
>> > > well,
>> > > and falling in line because we have no choice...isn't.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Sally Davies
>> > > <sally.davies at gmail.com
>> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > > > Be of good cheer friends. You are not alone, here in South
>> > > > Africa we
>> > are
>> > > > also shocked and horrified although I have already met one
>> > > > Christian
>> > > chump
>> > > > who is convinced of DT's Christian credentials because James
>> > > > Dobson
>> > > > said so.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Scott R. Knitter
>> > > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>> > >
>> > 


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