[Magdalen] Don't know if this is already widely known ...

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Cannot blame Europe for feeling frustrated. We elected a buffoon to the
office of the President, then, having learned nothing, we elected Bush.
And even though all agreed at the end that he was a terrible president, we
now have chosen another individual who has no credentials for, nor
understanding of the office.

We have been trying to break the country for such a long time, who can
blame him for saying it's high time we shut down and rebooted with a better
system.

Popular vote elects would be one idea.

We might allow the party out of power to automatically have dominant say in
any redistricting of voting districts to curb gerrymandering.

That the USA is too large to govern effectively might lead us to break the
juggernaut into four or five sovereign states. How to run the military? No
problem. A very loose confederation of these states with Canada and Mexico
and others who wish to be involved, such as the Free State of Puerto Rico
(and way past time for that emancipation too).

People are horrified at the way the USA dominates the world. This fixes
that. In addition, it addresses the fact that actions started by folks in
one region horribly offends folks in other regions. If they are their own
countries, they at least won't be angered that "those people" are making
decisions for the folks who are offended.

Of course, some areas will find out, to their chagrin, how poor they are,
and how VERY much they have been supported by other states such as New
York. (Pat Moynihan was always pointing out how much New York gave out, and
got very little back, and nobody ever responded, of course)

It might now happen, but maybe it should. The speculation that it would not
work has be balanced with the simple fact that what we're doing now sure
ain't workin' either.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:38 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, the man certainly puts it out there -- and makes a lot of sense.
>
> The question is whether or not there is a legal means to thwart the
> monster.
>
> I can only hope that people bear in mind that any effort to remove any
> President-elect from office has to simultaneously also deal with his
> designated replacement, as the Veep appears to be just about as unsuitable.
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Roger Stokes <
> roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 20/11/2016 14:58, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
>>
>>> As I'm sure you're aware Roger these two ballots, yours and ours have
>>> been widely compared to each other with the concepts of voter remorse and
>>> unsatisfactory final outcome. The "interesting times" have arrived - those
>>> so long bandied about as aphorism
>>>
>> Lynn,
>>
>> I am indeed aware of the comparison. They were protests against the
>> current situation but were not for a coherent (and achievable) new desired
>> order. As a result (following misrepresentation before the referendum) we
>> are now faced with disagreement on what the government should be seeking as
>> a divorce settlement from the EU. You have a President-designate (not elect
>> until after the electors have cast their votes on 19 December) whose
>> policies are unclear. Meanwhile we have a critique from Lord Williams of
>> Oystermouth, aka The Rt Revd and Rt Hon Rowan Williams.
>> http://www.newstatesman.com/world/2016/11/mass-democracy-has
>> -failed-its-time-seek-humane-alternative
>>
>> Roger
>>
>
>