[Magdalen] Two questions for the assembled multitude

Lynn Ronkainen houstonklr at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 04:22:27 UTC 2016


Blue has also been supported in recent years as a *return* to the Sarum traditions of using blue in Advent Additionally Sarum advises what is now being called Lenten Array - a tan'ish sackcloth color and vestments of basic simplicity for all of lent. My observation is that many choose blue while not choosing the "array". 
Lynn 



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On Nov 27, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com> wrote:

1. We use purple, but I've been a member of parishes that used blue. I
think the main reason is to differentiate Advent from Lent and
emphasize each season's particular emphases and character rather than
regarding Advent as another Lent, essentially. Doesn't mean Advent
isn't penitential at all (penitence is part of preparation). But
there's more of a joyful expectation, and those who use blue sometimes
explain that the blue expresses that expectation (and some might say
it reflects Mary's expectation, and blue is often considered a Marian
color). One clue about the BCP's take on this is in the opening
versicle and response of The Holy Eucharist, where a special set is
given "in Lent and other penitential occasions." If they meant Advent
to be one of those occasions, wouldn't they have simply said, "In
Advent, Lent, and other penitential occasions"? So Advent isn't
primarily penitential, but it is preparatory. I'm OK with purple, but
I understand the use of blue.

2. Some may know of a theological reason for Body before Blood, but I
think it might just be the practical notion that generally one eats,
then drinks. And it's the same order in which Our Lord is said to have
given these things to those at table. However, the BCP (in one of the
Articles, I think) teaches that to receive just one or the other is to
receive the full Sacrament

> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Arthur Laurent <ALaurent at npr.org> wrote:
> My two (or three) questions for this Sunday:
> 
> 1.  When did the Episcopal Church begin using Blue instead of Purple as the color for Advent? Why Blue?
> 
> 2.   Why does the Body come before the Blood not only in consecration, but in consuming, as well?  Why not the other way around (sometimes or always)?
> 
> Thanks for any enlightenment.
> 
> Arthur
> 



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Scott R. Knitter
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