[Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque

[Kate Conant]

I sing/chant whether there's a choir or not.  (I am in the choir at
Dormition, Winchester)

On 21 August, I was at the liturgy at Holy Trinity, Raleigh.  They have a
note in the bulletin for the congregation to join the choir in
singing/chanting, but not many do.  That Sunday, I was in the very back and
the Greek woman next to me was also singing/chanting.  After communion, she
said to me "Congratulations!"  and I thought at first it was because I had
gone up for communion but then she added "You know all the Greek in the
liturgy!"

One problem I have is when I have a different English translation than the
one the choir or psaltis uses.  (Especially on the hymns of the day).    We
 had ongoing muttering about the lack of any "Kyrie eleison" responses
after our current presiding priest arrived two years ago.  Our practice is
generally to respond in the same language the priest uses (Greek or
English) and Fr Panagiotis uses nearly all English on Sunday (Fr Milton and
Fr Stanley had switched back and forth during the petitions).  Hence, only
"Lord, Have Mercy!"    He told us he is charge of the liturgy!  Well, six
weeks ago the choir director told us that from now on we always respond
"Kyrie eleison":  so says Fr Panagiotis.

In Christ,

Kate

"What does the Lord require of you, but to do justice, love mercy, and walk
humbly with your God?"
Micah 6:8

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:

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> In a message dated 9/13/2016 3:29:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> kate.conant at gmail.com writes:
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> We have  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Of course NE PA has Orthodox and matching Byzantine Rite ("Greek
> Catholic") of every ethnic stripe and type.  In the little burg  (22,000)
> just over the mountain, there are, for instance 3 Byzantine Rite  parish
> churches and a couple of Orthodox churches.  The little suburb
> (3,500) at the top of said mountain has another parish church of
> the Byzantine Rite and another Orthodox church.
>
> I enjoy the Byzantine Rite Liturgy more because though they have
> cantors singing the service, all are welcome, as able, to join in,  and
> the music is in books in the pew racks.  The Orthodox OTOH, have
> choirs, and it is not possible to sing in the nave.  In this manner  they
> are like the Tridentines where schola and choir do the whole deal.
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> David S.
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