[Magdalen] P.S. Re: Update

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

It may very easily be my bad, Molly. I do not always get through an entire
post because of my ADD.  I try to accommodate, but something will distract
me, and I often do not recall where I was before.

It's a long, grueling chain of events.  Is there a projected duration of
treatments, or is it indefinite?

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:

> Actually, I'm heading into the worst of it.  Tuesday is my third of four
> chemo treatments.  The debility caused by chemo is cumulative.  I'm already
> suffering from debilitating fatigue.  Treatment #3 is going to be tough
> sledding and #4 will be worse. After that, a month off to recuperate before
> starting radiation.
>
> I thought I had mentioned this in previous posts.  Obviously not.
>
> Mollu
>
> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no
> other way. -- Mark Twain
>
> > On Feb 18, 2017, at 3:26 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps with your present experiences, you may be just the person to
> assist
> > them in figuring out what they might do, and they might also listen to
> you,
> > which cannot hurt.  I hope you are on the mend and will soon be thriving!
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Barbara is one of our associate clergy and the closest to me in peppery
> >> Episcopalianism.  She said that we really need more and younger people
> on
> >> the Pastoral Care Committee.  I mean to make an issue of this when I'm
> well
> >> enough, because the parish knows it has a problem but doesn't have a
> clue
> >> about what to do about it.
> >>
> >> Molly
> >>
> >> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
> no
> >> other way. -- Mark Twain
> >>
> >>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> (((((Molly)))))  I am glad you spoke with Barbara...is she your priest?
> >>>
> >>> I think another important part of all this ministry thing is that
> things
> >>> need to be kept current.  I don't just mean who is on the prayer list
> or
> >>> who needs soup.  Rather, I mean that lots of very excellent information
> >> is
> >>> 'out there' on how to do lay ministry in a parish and found it on all
> >>> manner of scriptural references....as in love your neighbor as
> yourself.
> >>> Churches can be clueless about that.  The foundation is love.
> >>>
> >>> Love you,
> >>> Ginga
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ((((Molly)))) I am glad that you reached out and I am pleased that you
> >>>> will be ministered to. It's complicated isn't it? Maybe your situation
> >> will
> >>>> impact things in your parish going forward.
> >>>> Hugs and love
> >>>> Lynn
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Grace, I am undergoing treatment for breast cancer.  I am on the
> parish
> >>>> prayer list.  No ESP required.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just had a long, fruitful, and satisfying conversation with one of
> our
> >>>> associate priests, which covered all of my concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> The parish does have a Pastoral Care Committee, median age 80+, which
> is
> >>>> tireless in looking after the pastoral needs of its age cohort but not
> >> so
> >>>> good at remembering younger folk.  (This is also true of ACWs in the
> >>>> smaller parishes.).
> >>>>
> >>>> Fear of being intrusive inhibits people from calling.  This, I
> suspect,
> >> is
> >>>> one of the most deeply established holy cultural shibboleths in our
> >> local
> >>>> culture:  that suffering is supposed to be private.  It's true of
> >> physical
> >>>> suffering ("stiff upper lip") but it's especially true of emotional,
> >>>> psychological, or spiritual suffering.  Sitting with someone else's
> >>>> suffering terrifies people because they expect to have to fix the
> >> sufferer.
> >>>> So people care, but they don't act.
> >>>>
> >>>> It took some courage to call Barbara, but I've done it.  So I can now
> >>>> expect soup, at least.  Which is great.
> >>>>
> >>>> And ESP? It's two way.  How is the sufferer supposed to know that
> people
> >>>> care if nobody does or says anything?
> >>>>
> >>>> Molly
> >>>>
> >>>> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
> >> no
> >>>> other way. -- Mark Twain
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh. Well, I guess their clergy *did* have ESP then...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 10:44 AM, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, there were a few people who insisted that clergy should simply
> >> know
> >>>> when someone is in need of a pastoral visit, and neither they, nor he
> >> would
> >>>> let it go.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -------------------------------------
> >>>>>> Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for
> society.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim Handsfield
> >>>>>> jhandsfield at att.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What, Jim...no one visited him?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>