[Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???

[Susan Hagen]

I think George says it best.



THE HOLY COMMUNION
George Herbert

O GRATious Lord, how shall I know
Whether in these gifts thou bee so

As thou art everywhere ?
Or rather so as thou alone
Tak'st all the Lodging, leaving none

For thy poore creature there.

First I am sure, whether Bread stay,
Or whether Bread doe fly away,

Concerneth Bread, not mee;
But that both thou and all thy traine

Bee there, to thy truth and my gaine,

Concerneth mee and Thee.

And if in comming to thy foes

Thou dost come first to them, that showes

The hast of thy good will.

Or if that thou two stations makest.
In Bread and mee, the way thou takest

Is more, but for mee still.

Then of this also I am sure.

That thou didst all those pains endure

To abolsh Sinn, not Wheat.
Creatures are good and have their place.
Sinn onely, which did all deface.

Thou drivest from his seat.

I could beleeve an Impanation

At the rate of an Incarnation,

If thou hadst dyde for Bread.
But that which made my soule to dye.
My flesh and fleshly villany,

That allso made thee dead.

That Flesh is there mine eyes deny.
And what should flesh but flesh discry,

The noblest sence of five
If glorious bodies pass the sight,

Shall they be food and strength and might.

Even there where they deceive .'

Into my soule this cannot pass.

Flesh (though exalted) keeps his grass.

And cannot turn to soule.
Bodyes and Minds are different spheres,
Nor can they change their bounds and meres.

But keep a constant pole.

This gift of all gifts is the best.
Thy flesh the least that I request.

Thou took'st that pledge from mee.
Give mee not that I had before.
Or give mee that so I have more.

My God, give mee all Thee.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com> wrote:
> This discussion reminds me of an experience my first Episcopal rector
> related: he's a strong believer that baptized children should not remember
> a time when they were not allowed to receive Holy Communion. So after
> starting work at his first parish, he wanted to make sure his young son was
> able to receive the Sacrament in both kinds (apparently where they were
> before gave children just the host and not the chalice, or maybe required
> confirmation first, or something). His son took his first sip of the
> Precious Blood and then exclaimed, "BLECCH! Tastes like WHISKEY!"
>
> Whereupon I'm sure everyone wondered how he knew!
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Which begs the question  - how did you know what tissue paper tasted like?
>>
>> Inquiring minds and all that ...
>>
>> Chad Wohlers
>> Woodbury, VT USA
>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weigel
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:03 AM
>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???
>>
>> When I made my first communion, I thought the bread tasted remarkably like
>> tissue paper.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Lesley de Voil <lesleymdv at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Enquiring minds want to know, how did you find out what fish food tastes
>>> like?
>>> Regards
>>> Lesley de Voil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: ‎12/‎07/‎2017 7:28
>>> To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???
>>>
>>> You know, I've always wondered about that. I guess if the Last Supper was
>>> a Passover meal, the bread would have been unleavened, but if it was just
>>> a
>>> regular meal, might the bread have been leavened.
>>> One thing I'm sure of: it wasn't little white wafers that have a design
>>> stamped on them and taste like fish food!
>>>
>>> > On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:04 PM, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I thought communion bread was supposed to be unleavened.
>>> >
>>> > -------------------------------------
>>> > Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
>>> >
>>> > Jim Handsfield
>>> > jhandsfield at att.net
>>> >
>>> >> On Jul 11, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> .
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Scott R. Knitter
> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA



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