[Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???

Grace Cangialosi gracecan at gmail.com
Thu Jul 13 19:07:48 UTC 2017


Oh my!! I've never seen this, Susan.  Wonderful!  I'm going to make a copy
of it and then read, mark, learn and inwardly digest(!), as they say.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think George says it best.
>
>
>
> THE HOLY COMMUNION
> George Herbert
>
> O GRATious Lord, how shall I know
> Whether in these gifts thou bee so
>
> As thou art everywhere ?
> Or rather so as thou alone
> Tak'st all the Lodging, leaving none
>
> For thy poore creature there.
>
> First I am sure, whether Bread stay,
> Or whether Bread doe fly away,
>
> Concerneth Bread, not mee;
> But that both thou and all thy traine
>
> Bee there, to thy truth and my gaine,
>
> Concerneth mee and Thee.
>
> And if in comming to thy foes
>
> Thou dost come first to them, that showes
>
> The hast of thy good will.
>
> Or if that thou two stations makest.
> In Bread and mee, the way thou takest
>
> Is more, but for mee still.
>
> Then of this also I am sure.
>
> That thou didst all those pains endure
>
> To abolsh Sinn, not Wheat.
> Creatures are good and have their place.
> Sinn onely, which did all deface.
>
> Thou drivest from his seat.
>
> I could beleeve an Impanation
>
> At the rate of an Incarnation,
>
> If thou hadst dyde for Bread.
> But that which made my soule to dye.
> My flesh and fleshly villany,
>
> That allso made thee dead.
>
> That Flesh is there mine eyes deny.
> And what should flesh but flesh discry,
>
> The noblest sence of five
> If glorious bodies pass the sight,
>
> Shall they be food and strength and might.
>
> Even there where they deceive .'
>
> Into my soule this cannot pass.
>
> Flesh (though exalted) keeps his grass.
>
> And cannot turn to soule.
> Bodyes and Minds are different spheres,
> Nor can they change their bounds and meres.
>
> But keep a constant pole.
>
> This gift of all gifts is the best.
> Thy flesh the least that I request.
>
> Thou took'st that pledge from mee.
> Give mee not that I had before.
> Or give mee that so I have more.
>
> My God, give mee all Thee.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This discussion reminds me of an experience my first Episcopal rector
> > related: he's a strong believer that baptized children should not
> remember
> > a time when they were not allowed to receive Holy Communion. So after
> > starting work at his first parish, he wanted to make sure his young son
> was
> > able to receive the Sacrament in both kinds (apparently where they were
> > before gave children just the host and not the chalice, or maybe required
> > confirmation first, or something). His son took his first sip of the
> > Precious Blood and then exclaimed, "BLECCH! Tastes like WHISKEY!"
> >
> > Whereupon I'm sure everyone wondered how he knew!
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Which begs the question  - how did you know what tissue paper tasted
> like?
> >>
> >> Inquiring minds and all that ...
> >>
> >> Chad Wohlers
> >> Woodbury, VT USA
> >> chadwohl at satucket.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weigel
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:03 AM
> >> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???
> >>
> >> When I made my first communion, I thought the bread tasted remarkably
> like
> >> tissue paper.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Lesley de Voil <lesleymdv at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Enquiring minds want to know, how did you find out what fish food tastes
> >>> like?
> >>> Regards
> >>> Lesley de Voil
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: ‎12/‎07/‎2017 7:28
> >>> To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???
> >>>
> >>> You know, I've always wondered about that. I guess if the Last Supper
> was
> >>> a Passover meal, the bread would have been unleavened, but if it was
> just
> >>> a
> >>> regular meal, might the bread have been leavened.
> >>> One thing I'm sure of: it wasn't little white wafers that have a design
> >>> stamped on them and taste like fish food!
> >>>
> >>> > On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:04 PM, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I thought communion bread was supposed to be unleavened.
> >>> >
> >>> > -------------------------------------
> >>> > Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
> >>> >
> >>> > Jim Handsfield
> >>> > jhandsfield at att.net
> >>> >
> >>> >> On Jul 11, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> .
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Scott R. Knitter
> > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>
>
>
> --
> The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among
> you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the
> land of Egypt.
> Leviticus 19:34
>



-- 
Grace Cangialosi
Ruckersville, VA

*"Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things with great
love."*
*St. Teresa of Calcutta*


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