[Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???

Susan Hagen susanvhagen at gmail.com
Thu Jul 13 19:13:47 UTC 2017


I'm glad you like it.  I love Herbert's poetry.


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh my!! I've never seen this, Susan.  Wonderful!  I'm going to make a copy
> of it and then read, mark, learn and inwardly digest(!), as they say.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think George says it best.
>>
>>
>>
>> THE HOLY COMMUNION
>> George Herbert
>>
>> O GRATious Lord, how shall I know
>> Whether in these gifts thou bee so
>>
>> As thou art everywhere ?
>> Or rather so as thou alone
>> Tak'st all the Lodging, leaving none
>>
>> For thy poore creature there.
>>
>> First I am sure, whether Bread stay,
>> Or whether Bread doe fly away,
>>
>> Concerneth Bread, not mee;
>> But that both thou and all thy traine
>>
>> Bee there, to thy truth and my gaine,
>>
>> Concerneth mee and Thee.
>>
>> And if in comming to thy foes
>>
>> Thou dost come first to them, that showes
>>
>> The hast of thy good will.
>>
>> Or if that thou two stations makest.
>> In Bread and mee, the way thou takest
>>
>> Is more, but for mee still.
>>
>> Then of this also I am sure.
>>
>> That thou didst all those pains endure
>>
>> To abolsh Sinn, not Wheat.
>> Creatures are good and have their place.
>> Sinn onely, which did all deface.
>>
>> Thou drivest from his seat.
>>
>> I could beleeve an Impanation
>>
>> At the rate of an Incarnation,
>>
>> If thou hadst dyde for Bread.
>> But that which made my soule to dye.
>> My flesh and fleshly villany,
>>
>> That allso made thee dead.
>>
>> That Flesh is there mine eyes deny.
>> And what should flesh but flesh discry,
>>
>> The noblest sence of five
>> If glorious bodies pass the sight,
>>
>> Shall they be food and strength and might.
>>
>> Even there where they deceive .'
>>
>> Into my soule this cannot pass.
>>
>> Flesh (though exalted) keeps his grass.
>>
>> And cannot turn to soule.
>> Bodyes and Minds are different spheres,
>> Nor can they change their bounds and meres.
>>
>> But keep a constant pole.
>>
>> This gift of all gifts is the best.
>> Thy flesh the least that I request.
>>
>> Thou took'st that pledge from mee.
>> Give mee not that I had before.
>> Or give mee that so I have more.
>>
>> My God, give mee all Thee.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This discussion reminds me of an experience my first Episcopal rector
>> > related: he's a strong believer that baptized children should not
>> remember
>> > a time when they were not allowed to receive Holy Communion. So after
>> > starting work at his first parish, he wanted to make sure his young son
>> was
>> > able to receive the Sacrament in both kinds (apparently where they were
>> > before gave children just the host and not the chalice, or maybe required
>> > confirmation first, or something). His son took his first sip of the
>> > Precious Blood and then exclaimed, "BLECCH! Tastes like WHISKEY!"
>> >
>> > Whereupon I'm sure everyone wondered how he knew!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Which begs the question  - how did you know what tissue paper tasted
>> like?
>> >>
>> >> Inquiring minds and all that ...
>> >>
>> >> Chad Wohlers
>> >> Woodbury, VT USA
>> >> chadwohl at satucket.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weigel
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:03 AM
>> >> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???
>> >>
>> >> When I made my first communion, I thought the bread tasted remarkably
>> like
>> >> tissue paper.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Lesley de Voil <lesleymdv at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Enquiring minds want to know, how did you find out what fish food tastes
>> >>> like?
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> Lesley de Voil
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> >>> Sent: ‎12/‎07/‎2017 7:28
>> >>> To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Jesus can only reveal hinself in wheat.... ???
>> >>>
>> >>> You know, I've always wondered about that. I guess if the Last Supper
>> was
>> >>> a Passover meal, the bread would have been unleavened, but if it was
>> just
>> >>> a
>> >>> regular meal, might the bread have been leavened.
>> >>> One thing I'm sure of: it wasn't little white wafers that have a design
>> >>> stamped on them and taste like fish food!
>> >>>
>> >>> > On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:04 PM, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I thought communion bread was supposed to be unleavened.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -------------------------------------
>> >>> > Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Jim Handsfield
>> >>> > jhandsfield at att.net
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> On Jul 11, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> .
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Scott R. Knitter
>> > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among
>> you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the
>> land of Egypt.
>> Leviticus 19:34
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Grace Cangialosi
> Ruckersville, VA
>
> *"Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things with great
> love."*
> *St. Teresa of Calcutta*



-- 
The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among
you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the
land of Egypt.
Leviticus 19:34


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