[Magdalen] Theological and Liturgical Tidbits - St. John's Abbey.

[Jay Weigel]

Many of the Old Rite churches, including the one I attend, don't practice
closed communion. Their reasoning is they've been chased out of s many
places that they welcome everyone who's been baptized in they name of the
Trinity. Also they do at least have deaconesses.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, aside from the fact that they have closed communion and don’t ordain
> women...!
> If I were going to do that, I’d be RC.
>
> > On Nov 7, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Argh. Part of why I find myself more and more going back towards the
> > Orthodox. Yes, we argue among ourselves, but geez.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:32 AM, cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> TThe monthly Benedictine, "Worship,"periodical came late last week, and
> >> the issue has a number of subjects related to the 500th Anniversary
> >> of the Protestant (Lutheran) Reformation.
> >>
> >> (1)  There is a discussion of the continuing difficulties Lutherans
> >> have now as well as during Luther's time, with the theology of the
> >> "Sacrifice" of the Eucharist.  There is the ongoing horror Lutherans
> >> have with any mention of sacrifice in the Eucharist because this term
> >>
> >> makes it seem to Lutherans that there is a re-sacrifice during the RC
> Mass,
> >> and the concept of the one, eternal Sacrifice on Calvary is lost.  The
> >> RC (and Anglocathlic) concept of the Eucharist as not being constrained
> >> by time, and that the Eucharist of each Mass IS Calvary is not
> >> comprehended.
> >> Lutheran suggestion:  Catholics might avoid using RC Eucharistic Prayer
> 1,
> >> the old Gregorian Canon, which is loaded with references to sacrifice.
> >> This would help ecumenism between Lutherans and Roman Catholics, the
> >> article says.
> >>
> >> 2.  A discussion of the Kyrie, especially as it evolved during the
> Baroque
> >> (JS Bach) and later periods into a penitential acclamation.  The article
> >> confirms what
> >> I have known for some time that the Kyries were from the East, and were
> >> originally part of a much more extended litany primarily aimed at
> praying
> >> for someone or something.  Thus, instead of Lord/Christ have mercy
> >> (upon us), the meaning is closer to Lord/Christ hear our prayer.
> >>
> >>
> >> David S.
> >>
>