[Magdalen] Dio SC (was Re: Dio. Of Virginia)

[Ginga Wilder]

Roger, and anyone still following the litigation in SC, here is the entry
Ron Caldwell, historian and author of "The Episcopal Church Schism in South
Carolina", recorded the following in his chronology of this mess:

*" November 19 --- Judge Edgar Dickson, of the circuit court, held a
hearing on DSC's motion for clarification, essentially asking the circuit
court to disregard the SCSC decision of Aug. 2, 2017, and rule on the issue
of the properties anew. The hearing was in the Orangeburg county
courthouse, in Orangeburg, SC. The judge listened to the arguments of the
lawyers on the two sides and said he would rule on the motion in time. He
set aside the other five motions/petitions for the time being. "*

*http://episcopalschismsc.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-schism-in-episcopal-church-diocese.html
<http://episcopalschismsc.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-schism-in-episcopal-church-diocese.html>*

*Ginga*

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On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 7:41 AM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Roger.  Yes, you are absolutely correct.  When all the trappings
> of our ecclesiastical inner workings went away, The Episcopal Church in SC
> was free to reclaim our essence as the body of Christ.  We are much the
> healthier for it.  When the politics went away, we were free to love as we
> are called.  I say from my place in the pew that the schism ultimately was
> the very best thing that could have happened for Episcopalians in SC at the
> time.  We found ourselves as a church again.  Of course, politics are there
> and the litigation drags on and on and on, but it is good here.  Sr Julian
> reminds us that all shall be welle, and this is true.  (Did I say that
> while Good Shepherd is outgrowing our rented space, many in our
> congregation, including John and me, do not want to assume the St. Paul's
> property.  For many reasons.  But, when that decision comes, Good Shepherd
> won't have a choice in that decision. )
>
> You have not missed anything - nothing has come from the courts since
> Judge Dickson heard the latest rendition of the Lawrence church's argument
> that the split SC Supreme Court decision for TEC and TECSC didn't mean what
> it said.  John and I attended that hearing along with a few others from
> Good Shepherd.  I felt the judge was quite sympathetic to the Lawrence
> argument and not so much with TECSC's request to move forward to implement
> the SCSC ruling by appointing a forensic accountant and also a special
> manager to oversee the distribution of property.  My guess is that we are
> at least a year or more away from anything changing with regard to property
> settlement.  Please know that I have no info from our diocese to form my
> opinion...and remember that I tend towards being an Eeyore when confronted
> with this subject.  So, my opinion comes simply from my negative intuition.
>
> You may find further information in recent posts at these two blogs:
> Ron Caldwell
> http://episcopalschismsc.blogspot.com/
>
> Steve Skardon
> http://www.scepiscopalians.com/
>
> Ginga Wilder
>
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> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 7:03 AM Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/2018 11:35, Ginga Wilder wrote:
>> > BUT, remember where I come from...SC took years - at least 25 to come to
>> > schism.  I am not saying that is happening in VA, just that my
>> experience
>> > is so particular regarding diocesan leadership leading down the wrong
>> > path.  And, again, the schism was not such a terrible thing for those
>> of us
>> > who remained with TEC.
>>
>> Ginga,
>>
>> In a sense the reorganization has meant that you have been able to work
>> from a fairly clean state, going back to basics and arranging things as
>> you want. From what you have said before for some congregations it has
>> meant not having a lot of plant to maintain and so the freedom to be, if
>> you like, a cutting which has got a fresh start in fresh compost with
>> all the vitality that brings.
>>
>> On a tangential matter have I missed something or has there been no
>> further ruling or hearing since the 19 November hearing about
>> implementing the SCSC ruling?
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>