[Magdalen] Magdalen Digest, Vol 64, Issue 15

[Sharon Moon]

Glad to read all the good news!  Merry Christmas!!

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:00 AM <magdalen-request at herberthouse.org> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Intervention. (Ann Markle)
>    2. Feminization. (cantor03 at aol.com)
>    3. Fwd: South Carolina (Roger Stokes)
>    4. Re: Fwd: South Carolina (Ginga Wilder)
>    5. Re: Fwd: South Carolina (Roger Stokes)
>    6. Re: Fwd: South Carolina (Ginga Wilder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:50:33 -0500
> From: Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Intervention.
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> Yes, thanks be to God for those people who loved you enough to do the
> difficult thing, for the grace that helped you be willing to hear, heed,
> and heal, and for your recovery example for me!?????????
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 2:27 PM cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > 22 December 84
> >
> > Telephone call from Dean of Eau Claire: :"I want to see you here at the
> > Cathedral" 22 December 84.  I replied inthe affirmative.
> >
> > Afternoon meeting in Eau Claire Standing Committee room.
> >
> > On one side of the long table were:
> >
> > (1) My friend, the O/C of the Cathedral.
> >
> > (2) Cathedral deacon who is also a fellow physician.
> >
> > (3) The Dean of Christ Church Cathedral.
> >
> > (4) The Bishop of Eau Claire.
> >
> > (5) Just me on the reverse side of committee table.
> >
> > Topic:  Alcohol was killing me.
> >
> >
> > Effect:  I was embarrassed and mortified.
> >
> > Result:  I never again picked up an alcoholic drink.
> >              33 years of sobriety.
> >
> > TBTG
> >
> >
> > David Strang.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> Ann
>
> The Rev. Ann Markle
> Buffalo, NY
> www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:13:43 +0000 (UTC)
> From: cantor03 at aol.com
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Cc: donsgard at rocketmail.com
> Subject: [Magdalen] Feminization.
> Message-ID: <165078469.1645086.1576775623312 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> The annual Christmas Card from the Dermatology Department at
> UM-Minneapolisarrived this week. The increase in the size of classes and of
> numbers of full timefaculty in Dermatology are obvious.?
>
>
> Back in the day (early 1960's) there were a half dozen full time staff,
> and just 12dermatology resident physicians.? The photo included in the card
> shows a totalof 38 resident physicians and full time staff.
>
> The other obvious change is the dominance of female residents and staff.I
> counted just 14 male residents and staff, leaving 24 females.? Again,
> backin the day there was only one female out of the 12 resident physicians
> andone female full time staff member.? I wasn't very sensitive to noticing
> suchthings, but even then I thought these two ladies were not well treated
> bythe dominant male environment.
>
> Taking this one step further back, out of a hundred in my medical school
> class(UW-Madison) there were 5 females.? Now out of a class of 200, there
> are130 females.? UM-Minneapolis Medical School has gone to a class size
> of400, and the substantial majority are female.
>
> This is all fine with me.? I have no agenda other than considering this
> all asan interesting phenomenon.
>
>
> David Strang.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 23:26:40 +0000
> From: Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: [Magdalen] Fwd: South Carolina
> Message-ID: <4f3f6ae2-cd3a-9ecb-1618-bd3d149de06f at btinternet.com>
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> I got a message when sending the original that it wasn't being sent
> because of possible spam so I have deleted the link to ECNS.
>
> Roger
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:        South Carolina
> Date:   Thu, 19 Dec 2019 23:21:35 +0000
> From:   Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> Reply-To:       r.s.stokes.65 at cantab.net
> To:     magdalen at herberthouse.org
>
>
>
> I don't want to tread on Ginga's toes but I notice from ECNS that Judge
> Richard M Gergel has given the proper Diocese of South Carolina an early
> Christmas present and Bishop Skip Adams a retirement present. He has
> held that the disaffected diocese under Bishop Mark Lawrence has been
> defying his September injunction by implying on its website and
> references to the numbering of Diocesan Conventions /inter alia/ that it
> is continuing to claim goodwill as a successor to the Historic Diocese
> founded in 1785. They are to remove official documents prior to 2012
> from their website and documents since that date may not include the
> official diocesan seal or use terms that imply they are the proper
> successors to the Historic Diocese.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 18:36:45 -0500
> From: Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> To: Magdalen <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Fwd: South Carolina
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> Tread away, Roger...my toes are not in the way.  Yes, a decision for The
> Episcopal Church on an appeal to the federal court.  We have a long way to
> go in the state court.
>
> Thanks, Roger.
> Ginga
>
> Of, as a spouse, to a choir party.
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 6:26 PM Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>
> > I got a message when sending the original that it wasn't being sent
> > because of possible spam so I have deleted the link to ECNS.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject:        South Carolina
> > Date:   Thu, 19 Dec 2019 23:21:35 +0000
> > From:   Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> > Reply-To:       r.s.stokes.65 at cantab.net
> > To:     magdalen at herberthouse.org
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't want to tread on Ginga's toes but I notice from ECNS that Judge
> > Richard M Gergel has given the proper Diocese of South Carolina an early
> > Christmas present and Bishop Skip Adams a retirement present. He has
> > held that the disaffected diocese under Bishop Mark Lawrence has been
> > defying his September injunction by implying on its website and
> > references to the numbering of Diocesan Conventions /inter alia/ that it
> > is continuing to claim goodwill as a successor to the Historic Diocese
> > founded in 1785. They are to remove official documents prior to 2012
> > from their website and documents since that date may not include the
> > official diocesan seal or use terms that imply they are the proper
> > successors to the Historic Diocese.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 00:02:47 +0000
> From: Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Fwd: South Carolina
> Message-ID: <c76b954c-a766-f154-77f1-ba01784819f5 at btinternet.com>
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> Ah yes because the local judge isn't doing what the Supreme Court of
> South Carolina has told him to do. Lawrence et al say the ruling was
> unclear because there were different combinations of justices in the
> majority on the various points at issue but on each one there was a
> majority. They decided and remitted it to him to enforce but he has
> continued to drag his heels on the matter.
>
> Roger
>
> On 19/12/2019 23:36, Ginga Wilder wrote:
> > Tread away, Roger...my toes are not in the way.  Yes, a decision for The
> > Episcopal Church on an appeal to the federal court.  We have a long way
> to
> > go in the state court.
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 20:46:50 -0500
> From: Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> To: Magdalen <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Fwd: South Carolina
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> And, when he stops delaying and calls a hearing, he comes up with some
> inane instruction to each party.  This time they are to meet together
> without mediation because that always fail, but meet together and determine
> what exactly his instructions from the state supreme court actually is.  I
> can attest that these two parties will not kiss and make up.
>
> Gawd have mercy!
> Ginga
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 7:02 PM Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>
> > Ah yes because the local judge isn't doing what the Supreme Court of
> > South Carolina has told him to do. Lawrence et al say the ruling was
> > unclear because there were different combinations of justices in the
> > majority on the various points at issue but on each one there was a
> > majority. They decided and remitted it to him to enforce but he has
> > continued to drag his heels on the matter.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On 19/12/2019 23:36, Ginga Wilder wrote:
> > > Tread away, Roger...my toes are not in the way.  Yes, a decision for
> The
> > > Episcopal Church on an appeal to the federal court.  We have a long way
> > to
> > > go in the state court.
> >
> >
>
>
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