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Christopher Hart
cervus51 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 1 22:36:41 UTC 2019
I was told that I had scarlet fever as a very young child, but I do not
remember the experience. My brother and I had measles together and I do
remember that. We were maybe 6 and 4 or something of that sort. A bit later
he had the mumps and our mother kept us together so that I would get it
too, but I never did. I was vacinated later on in high school when someone
there came down with it. I got the chickenpox during my junior high years
from my father when he had shingles, then my brother got it from me.
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 5:22 PM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
> I had measles, rubella, and mumps as a child. My sisters had some of that,
> with my youngest sister having scarlet fever...we were quarantined, along
> with our school classes and the 5th grade class my mother taught, for two
> weeks. This was actually a prank played by the county health physician who
> thought it was funny. Yep, small Southern town in the 1950s. I don't
> remember having strep as a child. I do remember having 3 polio vaccine
> injections in the long lines down the school halls.
>
> Our youngest son came down with chicken pox, caught in kindergarten. He
> passed that along to his sister. Within the incubation period, our older
> son developed appendicitis and had surgery for that. He was quarantined in
> hospital for the duration and got pneumonia, so we were there for a week.
> On the way home, he broke out in hundreds of chicken pox all over the
> incision. Misery for all of them, but especially my son Jay..
>
> Thank God for vaccines. I believe schools could disallow students who have
> not been vaccinated on a proper schedule. Perhaps private schools for
> those who don't...I think it is that serious that we turn the trend not to
> vaccinate around. This mindset does seem trendy to me.
>
> My $0.02.
> Ginga
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 3:30 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking now that I may have gotten gamma globulin when my brothers
> had
> > rubella (German measles). Hard to remember now, as we were all sick so
> much
> > from just after Christmas through May of that year. We started with the
> > measles, which almost every kid in the neighborhood got at a Christmas
> > party we attended where somebody must have been incubating them. I have
> > recently read that measles does much more than just make you sick as
> > hell...it damages your immune system for a good little while, which would
> > explain us being so sick that year. We had, in succession, measles,
> > rubella, strep throat (very severe cases), and mumps. And of course, we
> > didn't all come down sick at once; it was a case of one of us getting
> sick,
> > then another 5 days to a week later, then the third, and so forth, in a
> > round robin that must have completely exhausted my poor mother. If
> nothing
> > else makes her a candidate for sainthood, that year certainly should
> have!
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Our family had a run of diseases when we arrived in Japan. I was 9, and
> > my
> > > sister was 2.
> > > A little girl on the ship came down with chicken pox a day or two
> before
> > > we landed in Japan. Two weeks later I came down with them, and my
> sister
> > > two weeks after that. Then, almost immediately, I got measles.
> > > We lived at a hotel that was being run by the Army for R&R for troops
> > > stationed in Korea.
> > > It was on a mountain in Nikko, a ski resort, and the only way you could
> > > get down the mountain in winter was by cable car. The nearest Army base
> > was
> > > 4 hours away. I was very sick, and they didn’t know what was wrong—no
> > rash
> > > yet—so we all took the cable car down and got an Army staff car to take
> > us
> > > to the hospital. My mother said that on the way down in the cable car,
> > > which was full of school kids, she was horrified to see me breaking out
> > > with a rash, and she realized what it was.
> > >
> > > The diagnosis was measles, and they gave my sister gamma globulin to
> try
> > > to prevent her from getting it. It worked, and I don’t think she ever
> > got
> > > them.
> > >
> > > > On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was 9 when I had measles. I was as sick as I've ever been before or
> > > > since. I might wish that on my very worst enemy, but never on my kids
> > or
> > > > anyone I love.
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:45 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Also human beings (westerners, at least) seem to have a great need
> to
> > > >> assign blame.
> > > >> It's a sort of slide to the left from Reason, with misapplication of
> > > >> scientific thought.
> > > >> Very Puritanical, if you think about it.
> > > >> It makes us judgmental and litigious and just gets in the way.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've talked with patients who *insist* that doctors really know how
> to
> > > cure
> > > >> cancer
> > > >> but only make the magical treatment available to a few friends and
> > > "elites"
> > > >> (for fear they'll do themselves out of their jobs and careers).
> > > >>
> > > >> I've said this before, but I remember having measles.
> > > >> I was seven, I think.
> > > >> It was awful.
> > > >> -M
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Friday, May 31, 2019, Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "We just don't know" is hard to accept, and it isn't surprising
> that
> > > >>> absent certainty about causes people cling to hypotheses about
> cause
> > > that
> > > >>> are unproven or disproven. At best, autism "treatment" addresses
> > > >>> behavioral manifestations but not the poorly understood autism
> > spectrum
> > > >>> disorders themselves.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
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Christopher Hart
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