[Magdalen] [Magdale

[Ginga Wilder]

I remember the measles...we called them red measles b/c of the rash, I
guess.  I remember being really sick and itchy with high fever for days.  I
stayed in a dark room because of the danger of eye problems.  Don't know if
that was an old wives tale, but I was in a dark room upstairs in summer in
a house without air conditioning.  I was probably 9 y.o., so this would
have been 1956.  So glad my grandchildren have been and will continue to be
vaccinated.  I update when my doc says I need to do that.

Ginga

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 6:36 PM Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was told that I had scarlet fever as a very young child, but I do not
> remember the experience. My brother and I had measles together and I do
> remember that. We were maybe 6 and 4 or something of that sort. A bit later
> he had the mumps and our mother kept us together so that I would get it
> too, but I never did. I was vacinated later on in high school when someone
> there came down with it. I got the chickenpox during my junior high years
> from my father when he had shingles, then my brother got it from me.
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 5:22 PM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I had measles, rubella, and mumps as a child.  My sisters had some of
> that,
> > with my youngest sister having scarlet fever...we were quarantined, along
> > with our school classes and the 5th grade class my mother taught, for two
> > weeks.  This was actually a prank played by the county health physician
> who
> > thought it was funny.  Yep, small Southern town in the 1950s.  I don't
> > remember having strep as a child.  I do remember having 3 polio vaccine
> > injections in the long lines down the school halls.
> >
> > Our youngest son came down with chicken pox, caught in kindergarten.  He
> > passed that along to his sister.  Within the incubation period, our older
> > son developed appendicitis and had surgery for that.  He was quarantined
> in
> > hospital for the duration and got pneumonia, so we were there for a week.
> > On the way home, he broke out in hundreds of chicken pox all over the
> > incision.  Misery for all of them, but especially my son Jay..
> >
> > Thank God for vaccines.  I believe schools could disallow students who
> have
> > not been vaccinated on a proper schedule.  Perhaps private schools for
> > those who don't...I think it is that serious that we turn the trend not
> to
> > vaccinate around.  This mindset does seem trendy to me.
> >
> > My $0.02.
> > Ginga
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 3:30 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking now that I may have gotten gamma globulin when my brothers
> > had
> > > rubella (German measles). Hard to remember now, as we were all sick so
> > much
> > > from just after Christmas through May of that year. We started with the
> > > measles, which almost every kid in the neighborhood got at a Christmas
> > > party we attended where somebody must have been incubating them. I have
> > > recently read that measles does much more than just make you sick as
> > > hell...it damages your immune system for a good little while, which
> would
> > > explain us being so sick that year. We had, in succession, measles,
> > > rubella, strep throat (very severe cases), and mumps. And of course, we
> > > didn't all come down sick at once; it was a case of one of us getting
> > sick,
> > > then another 5 days to a week later, then the third, and so forth, in a
> > > round robin that must have completely exhausted my poor mother. If
> > nothing
> > > else makes her a candidate for sainthood, that year certainly should
> > have!
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Our family had a run of diseases when we arrived in Japan. I was 9,
> and
> > > my
> > > > sister was 2.
> > > > A little girl on the ship came down with chicken pox a day or two
> > before
> > > > we landed in Japan. Two weeks later I came down with them, and my
> > sister
> > > > two weeks after that. Then, almost immediately, I got measles.
> > > > We lived at a hotel that was being run by the Army for R&R for troops
> > > > stationed in Korea.
> > > > It was on a mountain in Nikko, a ski resort, and the only way you
> could
> > > > get down the mountain in winter was by cable car. The nearest Army
> base
> > > was
> > > > 4 hours away. I was very sick, and they didn’t know what was wrong—no
> > > rash
> > > > yet—so we all took the cable car down and got an Army staff car to
> take
> > > us
> > > > to the hospital. My mother said that on the way down in the cable
> car,
> > > > which was full of school kids, she was horrified to see me breaking
> out
> > > > with a rash, and she realized what it was.
> > > >
> > > > The diagnosis was measles, and they gave my sister gamma globulin to
> > try
> > > > to prevent her from getting it.  It worked, and I don’t think she
> ever
> > > got
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > > On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was 9 when I had measles. I was as sick as I've ever been before
> or
> > > > > since. I might wish that on my very worst enemy, but never on my
> kids
> > > or
> > > > > anyone I love.
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:45 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Also human beings (westerners, at least) seem to have a great need
> > to
> > > > >> assign blame.
> > > > >> It's a sort of slide to the left from Reason, with misapplication
> of
> > > > >> scientific thought.
> > > > >> Very Puritanical, if you think about it.
> > > > >> It makes us judgmental and litigious and just gets in the way.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've talked with patients who *insist* that doctors really know
> how
> > to
> > > > cure
> > > > >> cancer
> > > > >> but only make the magical treatment available to a few friends and
> > > > "elites"
> > > > >> (for fear they'll do themselves out of their jobs and careers).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've said this before, but I remember having measles.
> > > > >> I was seven, I think.
> > > > >> It was awful.
> > > > >> -M
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Friday, May 31, 2019, Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "We just don't know" is hard to accept, and it isn't surprising
> > that
> > > > >>> absent certainty about causes people cling to hypotheses about
> > cause
> > > > that
> > > > >>> are unproven or disproven.  At best, autism "treatment" addresses
> > > > >>> behavioral manifestations but not the poorly understood autism
> > > spectrum
> > > > >>> disorders themselves.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Hart
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