[Magdalen] [Magdale

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Measles in kindergarten for me... Doc came to the house (late '50s)

The number of people who "opt out " of vaccines in TX, PLUS those who don't get it for various reasons including illegal status is alarming. 

I think the autism theory is bunk however it got me thinking and looking only to find there is some serious good science out there on the possibility of ultrasounds playing a role - timing and especially frequency. 

Lynn



On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm thinking now that I may have gotten gamma globulin when my brothers had
rubella (German measles). Hard to remember now, as we were all sick so much
from just after Christmas through May of that year. We started with the
measles, which almost every kid in the neighborhood got at a Christmas
party we attended where somebody must have been incubating them. I have
recently read that measles does much more than just make you sick as
hell...it damages your immune system for a good little while, which would
explain us being so sick that year. We had, in succession, measles,
rubella, strep throat (very severe cases), and mumps. And of course, we
didn't all come down sick at once; it was a case of one of us getting sick,
then another 5 days to a week later, then the third, and so forth, in a
round robin that must have completely exhausted my poor mother. If nothing
else makes her a candidate for sainthood, that year certainly should have!

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Our family had a run of diseases when we arrived in Japan. I was 9, and my
> sister was 2.
> A little girl on the ship came down with chicken pox a day or two before
> we landed in Japan. Two weeks later I came down with them, and my sister
> two weeks after that. Then, almost immediately, I got measles.
> We lived at a hotel that was being run by the Army for R&R for troops
> stationed in Korea.
> It was on a mountain in Nikko, a ski resort, and the only way you could
> get down the mountain in winter was by cable car. The nearest Army base was
> 4 hours away. I was very sick, and they didn’t know what was wrong—no rash
> yet—so we all took the cable car down and got an Army staff car to take us
> to the hospital. My mother said that on the way down in the cable car,
> which was full of school kids, she was horrified to see me breaking out
> with a rash, and she realized what it was.
> 
> The diagnosis was measles, and they gave my sister gamma globulin to try
> to prevent her from getting it.  It worked, and I don’t think she ever got
> them.
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I was 9 when I had measles. I was as sick as I've ever been before or
>> since. I might wish that on my very worst enemy, but never on my kids or
>> anyone I love.
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:45 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also human beings (westerners, at least) seem to have a great need to
>>> assign blame.
>>> It's a sort of slide to the left from Reason, with misapplication of
>>> scientific thought.
>>> Very Puritanical, if you think about it.
>>> It makes us judgmental and litigious and just gets in the way.
>>> 
>>> I've talked with patients who *insist* that doctors really know how to
> cure
>>> cancer
>>> but only make the magical treatment available to a few friends and
> "elites"
>>> (for fear they'll do themselves out of their jobs and careers).
>>> 
>>> I've said this before, but I remember having measles.
>>> I was seven, I think.
>>> It was awful.
>>> -M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019, Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> "We just don't know" is hard to accept, and it isn't surprising that
>>>> absent certainty about causes people cling to hypotheses about cause
> that
>>>> are unproven or disproven.  At best, autism "treatment" addresses
>>>> behavioral manifestations but not the poorly understood autism spectrum
>>>> disorders themselves.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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