[Magdalen] [Magdale

[Ann Markle]

I had them all: mumps (both sides at once) measles (both rubella and
rubeola), chicken pox, and something my mother called “scarletina,” which
she described as a milder form of scarlet fever. I don’t know when I ever
got to attend a Christmas party at my school. I remember a couple of late
night runs to the emergency room for a shot of penicillin in my
hindquarters.


On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 10:29 AM Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Measles did cause blindness in some cases. May have had something to do
> with possibly of high fever.
> Lynn
>
> On Jun 1, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I remember the measles...we called them red measles b/c of the rash, I
> guess.  I remember being really sick and itchy with high fever for days.  I
> stayed in a dark room because of the danger of eye problems.  Don't know if
> that was an old wives tale, but I was in a dark room upstairs in summer in
> a house without air conditioning.  I was probably 9 y.o., so this would
> have been 1956.  So glad my grandchildren have been and will continue to be
> vaccinated.  I update when my doc says I need to do that.
>
> Ginga
>
> > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 6:36 PM Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I was told that I had scarlet fever as a very young child, but I do not
> > remember the experience. My brother and I had measles together and I do
> > remember that. We were maybe 6 and 4 or something of that sort. A bit
> later
> > he had the mumps and our mother kept us together so that I would get it
> > too, but I never did. I was vacinated later on in high school when
> someone
> > there came down with it. I got the chickenpox during my junior high years
> > from my father when he had shingles, then my brother got it from me.
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 5:22 PM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I had measles, rubella, and mumps as a child.  My sisters had some of
> > that,
> >> with my youngest sister having scarlet fever...we were quarantined,
> along
> >> with our school classes and the 5th grade class my mother taught, for
> two
> >> weeks.  This was actually a prank played by the county health physician
> > who
> >> thought it was funny.  Yep, small Southern town in the 1950s.  I don't
> >> remember having strep as a child.  I do remember having 3 polio vaccine
> >> injections in the long lines down the school halls.
> >>
> >> Our youngest son came down with chicken pox, caught in kindergarten.  He
> >> passed that along to his sister.  Within the incubation period, our
> older
> >> son developed appendicitis and had surgery for that.  He was quarantined
> > in
> >> hospital for the duration and got pneumonia, so we were there for a
> week.
> >> On the way home, he broke out in hundreds of chicken pox all over the
> >> incision.  Misery for all of them, but especially my son Jay..
> >>
> >> Thank God for vaccines.  I believe schools could disallow students who
> > have
> >> not been vaccinated on a proper schedule.  Perhaps private schools for
> >> those who don't...I think it is that serious that we turn the trend not
> > to
> >> vaccinate around.  This mindset does seem trendy to me.
> >>
> >> My $0.02.
> >> Ginga
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 3:30 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking now that I may have gotten gamma globulin when my brothers
> >> had
> >>> rubella (German measles). Hard to remember now, as we were all sick so
> >> much
> >>> from just after Christmas through May of that year. We started with the
> >>> measles, which almost every kid in the neighborhood got at a Christmas
> >>> party we attended where somebody must have been incubating them. I have
> >>> recently read that measles does much more than just make you sick as
> >>> hell...it damages your immune system for a good little while, which
> > would
> >>> explain us being so sick that year. We had, in succession, measles,
> >>> rubella, strep throat (very severe cases), and mumps. And of course, we
> >>> didn't all come down sick at once; it was a case of one of us getting
> >> sick,
> >>> then another 5 days to a week later, then the third, and so forth, in a
> >>> round robin that must have completely exhausted my poor mother. If
> >> nothing
> >>> else makes her a candidate for sainthood, that year certainly should
> >> have!
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Our family had a run of diseases when we arrived in Japan. I was 9,
> > and
> >>> my
> >>>> sister was 2.
> >>>> A little girl on the ship came down with chicken pox a day or two
> >> before
> >>>> we landed in Japan. Two weeks later I came down with them, and my
> >> sister
> >>>> two weeks after that. Then, almost immediately, I got measles.
> >>>> We lived at a hotel that was being run by the Army for R&R for troops
> >>>> stationed in Korea.
> >>>> It was on a mountain in Nikko, a ski resort, and the only way you
> > could
> >>>> get down the mountain in winter was by cable car. The nearest Army
> > base
> >>> was
> >>>> 4 hours away. I was very sick, and they didn’t know what was wrong—no
> >>> rash
> >>>> yet—so we all took the cable car down and got an Army staff car to
> > take
> >>> us
> >>>> to the hospital. My mother said that on the way down in the cable
> > car,
> >>>> which was full of school kids, she was horrified to see me breaking
> > out
> >>>> with a rash, and she realized what it was.
> >>>>
> >>>> The diagnosis was measles, and they gave my sister gamma globulin to
> >> try
> >>>> to prevent her from getting it.  It worked, and I don’t think she
> > ever
> >>> got
> >>>> them.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was 9 when I had measles. I was as sick as I've ever been before
> > or
> >>>>> since. I might wish that on my very worst enemy, but never on my
> > kids
> >>> or
> >>>>> anyone I love.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:45 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also human beings (westerners, at least) seem to have a great need
> >> to
> >>>>>> assign blame.
> >>>>>> It's a sort of slide to the left from Reason, with misapplication
> > of
> >>>>>> scientific thought.
> >>>>>> Very Puritanical, if you think about it.
> >>>>>> It makes us judgmental and litigious and just gets in the way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've talked with patients who *insist* that doctors really know
> > how
> >> to
> >>>> cure
> >>>>>> cancer
> >>>>>> but only make the magical treatment available to a few friends and
> >>>> "elites"
> >>>>>> (for fear they'll do themselves out of their jobs and careers).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've said this before, but I remember having measles.
> >>>>>> I was seven, I think.
> >>>>>> It was awful.
> >>>>>> -M
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019, Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "We just don't know" is hard to accept, and it isn't surprising
> >> that
> >>>>>>> absent certainty about causes people cling to hypotheses about
> >> cause
> >>>> that
> >>>>>>> are unproven or disproven.  At best, autism "treatment" addresses
> >>>>>>> behavioral manifestations but not the poorly understood autism
> >>> spectrum
> >>>>>>> disorders themselves.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Christopher Hart
> >
> > List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> > Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> > Twitter: @cervus51
> >
>
-- 
Ann

The Rev. Ann Markle
Buffalo, NY
www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com