[Magdalen] [Magdale

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Measles did cause blindness in some cases. May have had something to do with possibly of high fever. 
Lynn 

On Jun 1, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:

I remember the measles...we called them red measles b/c of the rash, I
guess.  I remember being really sick and itchy with high fever for days.  I
stayed in a dark room because of the danger of eye problems.  Don't know if
that was an old wives tale, but I was in a dark room upstairs in summer in
a house without air conditioning.  I was probably 9 y.o., so this would
have been 1956.  So glad my grandchildren have been and will continue to be
vaccinated.  I update when my doc says I need to do that.

Ginga

> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 6:36 PM Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was told that I had scarlet fever as a very young child, but I do not
> remember the experience. My brother and I had measles together and I do
> remember that. We were maybe 6 and 4 or something of that sort. A bit later
> he had the mumps and our mother kept us together so that I would get it
> too, but I never did. I was vacinated later on in high school when someone
> there came down with it. I got the chickenpox during my junior high years
> from my father when he had shingles, then my brother got it from me.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 5:22 PM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I had measles, rubella, and mumps as a child.  My sisters had some of
> that,
>> with my youngest sister having scarlet fever...we were quarantined, along
>> with our school classes and the 5th grade class my mother taught, for two
>> weeks.  This was actually a prank played by the county health physician
> who
>> thought it was funny.  Yep, small Southern town in the 1950s.  I don't
>> remember having strep as a child.  I do remember having 3 polio vaccine
>> injections in the long lines down the school halls.
>> 
>> Our youngest son came down with chicken pox, caught in kindergarten.  He
>> passed that along to his sister.  Within the incubation period, our older
>> son developed appendicitis and had surgery for that.  He was quarantined
> in
>> hospital for the duration and got pneumonia, so we were there for a week.
>> On the way home, he broke out in hundreds of chicken pox all over the
>> incision.  Misery for all of them, but especially my son Jay..
>> 
>> Thank God for vaccines.  I believe schools could disallow students who
> have
>> not been vaccinated on a proper schedule.  Perhaps private schools for
>> those who don't...I think it is that serious that we turn the trend not
> to
>> vaccinate around.  This mindset does seem trendy to me.
>> 
>> My $0.02.
>> Ginga
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 3:30 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking now that I may have gotten gamma globulin when my brothers
>> had
>>> rubella (German measles). Hard to remember now, as we were all sick so
>> much
>>> from just after Christmas through May of that year. We started with the
>>> measles, which almost every kid in the neighborhood got at a Christmas
>>> party we attended where somebody must have been incubating them. I have
>>> recently read that measles does much more than just make you sick as
>>> hell...it damages your immune system for a good little while, which
> would
>>> explain us being so sick that year. We had, in succession, measles,
>>> rubella, strep throat (very severe cases), and mumps. And of course, we
>>> didn't all come down sick at once; it was a case of one of us getting
>> sick,
>>> then another 5 days to a week later, then the third, and so forth, in a
>>> round robin that must have completely exhausted my poor mother. If
>> nothing
>>> else makes her a candidate for sainthood, that year certainly should
>> have!
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Our family had a run of diseases when we arrived in Japan. I was 9,
> and
>>> my
>>>> sister was 2.
>>>> A little girl on the ship came down with chicken pox a day or two
>> before
>>>> we landed in Japan. Two weeks later I came down with them, and my
>> sister
>>>> two weeks after that. Then, almost immediately, I got measles.
>>>> We lived at a hotel that was being run by the Army for R&R for troops
>>>> stationed in Korea.
>>>> It was on a mountain in Nikko, a ski resort, and the only way you
> could
>>>> get down the mountain in winter was by cable car. The nearest Army
> base
>>> was
>>>> 4 hours away. I was very sick, and they didn’t know what was wrong—no
>>> rash
>>>> yet—so we all took the cable car down and got an Army staff car to
> take
>>> us
>>>> to the hospital. My mother said that on the way down in the cable
> car,
>>>> which was full of school kids, she was horrified to see me breaking
> out
>>>> with a rash, and she realized what it was.
>>>> 
>>>> The diagnosis was measles, and they gave my sister gamma globulin to
>> try
>>>> to prevent her from getting it.  It worked, and I don’t think she
> ever
>>> got
>>>> them.
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was 9 when I had measles. I was as sick as I've ever been before
> or
>>>>> since. I might wish that on my very worst enemy, but never on my
> kids
>>> or
>>>>> anyone I love.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:45 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also human beings (westerners, at least) seem to have a great need
>> to
>>>>>> assign blame.
>>>>>> It's a sort of slide to the left from Reason, with misapplication
> of
>>>>>> scientific thought.
>>>>>> Very Puritanical, if you think about it.
>>>>>> It makes us judgmental and litigious and just gets in the way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've talked with patients who *insist* that doctors really know
> how
>> to
>>>> cure
>>>>>> cancer
>>>>>> but only make the magical treatment available to a few friends and
>>>> "elites"
>>>>>> (for fear they'll do themselves out of their jobs and careers).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've said this before, but I remember having measles.
>>>>>> I was seven, I think.
>>>>>> It was awful.
>>>>>> -M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019, Don <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "We just don't know" is hard to accept, and it isn't surprising
>> that
>>>>>>> absent certainty about causes people cling to hypotheses about
>> cause
>>>> that
>>>>>>> are unproven or disproven.  At best, autism "treatment" addresses
>>>>>>> behavioral manifestations but not the poorly understood autism
>>> spectrum
>>>>>>> disorders themselves.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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