[Magdalen] Spiltsville.

[Joseph Cirou]

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>From: James Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net>
>Sent: Jan 6, 2020 10:33 AM
>To: Magdalen <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Spiltsville.
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>This is not the first time, as you note, that there has been schism in the Methodist Church. Most forget that one sect broke apart and became the Church of the Nazarene, a very conservative, fundamentalist church.  My grandfather, William James Weber, a Methodist pastor, would probably be at home in the Church of the Nazarene as he was a hellfire and brimstone conservative.  He was also a very loving man.
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>The Methodists will survive this.
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>Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
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>Jim Handsfield
>jhandsfield at att.net
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>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 10:25 AM, cantor03--- via Magdalen <magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
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>> The three USA main divisions of Methodism joined together in 1939
>> to form the Methodist Church (USA).  They had split into the threegroups secondary to the slavery issue and the role of the laity, duringthe 19th century.
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>> My Aunt Lulu, a sort of "professional Methodist," was a delegate to theUniting Conference , and regarded the public signing of the articles of unionby a Methodist bishop from each uniting group as one of the formative eventsof her life.  I still have her special Conference Methodist Hymnal embossedwith her name as a delegate, in my library.
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>> Aunt Lulu would be unhappy that the Methodist denomination (USA) is beingrent asunder by the divisive issue of marriage and ordination of GLBT persons.The split is heavily geographic with the North USA being liberal and pro
>> inclusion of GLBT marriages and ordinations, and the South USA
>> conservative on those issues.
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>> I don't know any conservative Methodists, and those I do know are really quiteopen to complete acceptance of GLBT persons, so this division surprisesme.
>> 
>> I have the feeling that the USA Methodists are setting themselves up for yet
>> another "Uniting Conference" (maybe in 2039?)
>> 
>> David Strang.
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I have two very good friends who are Church of the Nazarene. There was a Church of the Nazarene in my neighborhood as a child. Our Benedictine Sisters motherhouse was very close to the denomination headquarters. The Sisters and the denomination wre very close friends. I am not under that impression that my friends are hellfire and brimstone. The preaching is evangelistic but not in any non inclusive way.  I imagine the church has matured in the last 120 years.

Joe Cirou